No resources on Black Forest except around town center (Update 141935)

:play_button: GAME INFORMATION

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  • GAME BUILD #: 17957298 (newest update - Update 141935)
  • GAME PLATFORM: Steam
  • OPERATING SYSTEM: Windows 10

:play_button: ISSUE EXPERIENCED

No resources on Black Forest except those around town centers

Every Black Forest game I start looks like this resource-wise:

Absolutely no resources except those around each starting town.

:play_button: FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

100% of the time

:play_button: REPRODUCTION STEPS

  1. Start a Black Forest map (I used Empire Wars and standard)

:play_button: EXPECTED RESULT

More resources spread throughout map, depending on the resource amount you set in game config. Other maps I loaded had no problems in this regard. This was Michi:

This was Baltic:

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Same thing happening to me

Same issue. When putting resources and relics close to the village, developers neglected to put them anywhere else on the map. Makes for a short game.

This makes me wonder exactly how much testing they actually do. This happens on every single BF map I’ve tried. They should have caught this if they tested the changes.

@Felizon89 Can you guys please fix this? It’s made Black Forest unplayable. At least roll back the changes you made until a fix can be made.

Even just an acknowledgement that it will be fixed at some point would be nice here.

Hello,
does this issue persist after the latest update? Im not able to reproduce it currently

@ChristheCo Yes - I just tested this morning. It appears related to the size of the map - although on the normal sized map, you can see there are no resources in the center paths, and there absolutely used to be pre-update. It seems to just not look as bad on smaller maps because there is less empty space, but the resources still mostly just cluster around the players and nowhere else.

Here are some examples:

BF Ludicrous size settings:

BF Ludicrous size map

Normal size map:

Huge size map:

@Felizon89 @ChristheCo are you guys just not going to fix this? I’m not the only one having the problem and at least on my end, it’s happening 100% of the time and the severity of the problem scales by map size. This map is completely ruined for anything but small maps without a fix.

Hello. I installed the game last week on a new computer and I started having this same issue. Has this been fixed?

@ChristheCo Any updates on this?

It’s still devoid of resources on large+ sized maps anywhere but immediately around the town center:

You can’t look at that map and seriously tell me everything is fine. I don’t use any mods or other tools. This is exactly as it comes.

That’s odd, I was sure I’d checked this thread before and didn’t see the issue, but I just jumped into a Ludicrous Map and it’s there:

To put it another way:

  • When player count == recommended (e.g. 2 players on a 2-player map), resources spawn (more or less) normally.
  • As soon as you increase the map’s size beyond what’s recommended for the number of players, no extra resources appear, so the “large” version ends up feeling oddly empty.


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Thanks for the more specific replication. I should have did this when I first reported it!

No worries!

FYI: On Reddit, folks have been talking even more about the new Black Forest:

So, this bug probably showed up when they apparently completely rewrote the Black Forest script to make it more competitive, testing only the standard/recommended settings. Larger maps are fun, but they’re not the most commonly played.

Workaround Tip: If you’re missing the old BF experience, with plenty of resources even on larger maps, you might want to try the original Black Forest script. It’s available as a mod/custom map script here:
[Age of Empires II: DE Mods] Black Forest pre-update 141935
Hopefully, this can help keep your games enjoyable until they sort out the current map!



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Thank you so much for the mod link. I’ll give it a try.

I don’t have time to play much anymore (started playing AoE in the late 1990s but life has gotten in the way since then), and when I do, it’s usually just an AI Boom/Imp game I play over multiple days here and there, which is why I like the large map sizes, and BF was my favorite map. You might have just salvaged the game for me :sweat_smile:

edit: Yea that worked. Thanks again!

This is unfortunate, as that’s my favorite skirmish map.
Top is from a game save from 2021 on a ludicrous size BF map and what I think a proper distribution of resources and forest should look like.
Bottom is a ludicrouse size BF map in the currently state. More savanna’y with an excessive distribution of crocodiles(predators).

Apparently, it’s fixed in the PUP preview, but I haven’t tested it myself.