Please give the Norse a long range anti archer unit and nerf the light cavalry available in the Classical Age

[Moonshadow7475]

@BornWinter52864

. It is the fault of the players who didn’t want the Norse to have a long range anti archer unit.

How exactly would a long range archer for norse help against light cav? light cav massacres archers.

[Cajocu01]

@BornWinter52864

Norse cavalry gets stuck among themselves when they try to attack archer spam. This causes that out of 20 cavalry units, only 8 or 9 actually attack; the rest get stuck and die easily along the way, while the opponent keeps sending more archers, but now with hoplite support or anti-cavalry units. This is completely broken because the Norse have no way to counter it, causing the Norse player to lose their economy easily while trying to replace their army. And what was the developers’ solution? Nerf Norse dwarves so the Norse can’t recover their economy!

This dooming message seems to try to illustrate its hopeless for poor norse to win games when the army gets formed. Its good its false and they do in fact have ways to deal with archers. Pathing bugs do exist and are not exclusive to norse units.

@BornWinter52864

Norse infantry doesn’t last even 3 seconds against archer spam. And what was the developers’ solution? Nerf the shields of all infantry. Now Berserks are completely useless!

Really? Im pretty sure huskarl last at leas 3.1 seconds. Berserk completely useless? Vidar missed that memo.

@BornWinter52864

All pantheons have long-range military units that are effective against archers, except the Norse. The Norse have no way to counter archer spam in team games. The Norse have no way to support their allies against archer spam.

Yea… its almost like its a designed weakness. All pantheons have missing dynamics. Greeks are the only ones that cant spam heroes. Eggy doesnt have calvary units in classic age. Atlantean lack good siege options. norse has plenty of ways to support their allies, you will get better at the game when you unlock them in your head.

@BornWinter52864

I asked for the Norse to get a long-range anti-archer unit or for the Godi to be improved to counter archer spam, but you and other selfish and unfair users simply attacked me like cowards, all against me and without arguments, only insults, even when I was presenting evidence.

This keeps it interesting, seeing how even thou you seem to be a complete troll the community doesnt engage in your pointless flawed examples and proves you wrong time and time again, truly motivating.

@BornWinter52864

You all even asked a moderator to close my threads to silence my opinion.

Never had i done that, but sure, whatever lets you justify yourself.

@BornWinter52864

The only thing you achieved was buffing all light cavalry, which ended up ruining all the game, and now light cavalry is destroying everything because all matches have turned into nonstop light cavalry raids all over the map! From 1350 or 1400 onward, all ranked team games are just light cavalry raids caused by premade teams!

It seems you have gotten a bit better if you finally are able to play games with 1350 onwards. Im happy for you. Its almost like when people get better at the game they stop playing randomly and actually focus on what works best.

[Cajocu01]

Logic and BornWinter52864 dont go together, but i know its gonna be some fun response

[BornWinter52864]

@Moonshadow7475

How exactly would a long range archer for norse help against light cav? light cav massacres archers.

@Cajocu01

Logic and BornWinter52864 dont go together, but i know its gonna be some fun response

Your question is badly written; you don’t understand. I am not asking for an archer for the Norse. I am asking for a long-range anti-archer unit similar to the Greek peltast.

And regarding the other point, The cavalry is getting stuck on each other., this is a core engine problem of the game. If you send an army of 20 cavalry units, all 20 will never reach and attack the archers; only a few will make contact, while the rest get stuck and die along the way, especially in team games where each opponent sends 35 archers supported by 15 anti-cavalry units. Do you really think that if I send 20 or 30 cavalry units against 60 archers plus 20 hoplites my cavalry will achieve anything? No. All the cavalry will be defeated in seconds because they create a bottleneck among themselves.

If the developers had listened to me and given the Norse a long-range anti-archer unit, or if they had improved the godi to be an effective unit against archers, then the developers would never have buffed light cavalry. But since all you started messing everything up, now all premade teams are ruining the game because they only spam light cavalry all over the map. The game is awful, you can’t even send villagers far from the TC anymore because premade teams attack you 3 vs 1 with light cavalry spam in the Classical Age. Then they send the light cavalry to quickly destroy TCs and retreat because they are too fast. Because of all of you, the game is horrible.

IN TEAM GAMES, PLAYERS NO LONGER USE LIGHT CAVALRY TO COUNTER ARCHER SPAM, DO YOU UNDERSTAND? Instead, they use long-range anti-archer units similar to the peltast, which is a unit the Norse NEED. Light cavalry is only used for raiding the enemy. Light cavalry should never have been buffed.

[Urban_Hunter]

@Cajocu01

What type of gameplay do you enjoy?

Tower Defense

@BornWinter52864

Please nerf light cavalry; the game is now just light cavalry raids all over the map. Nobody uses any other units anymore. I am talking specifically about the light cavalry available in the Classical Age.

You forgot about the Anubites and the poisonous spearmen, how shameful.

[Cajocu01]

@BornWinter52864

Do you really think that if I send 20 or 30 cavalry units against 60 archers plus 20 hoplites my cavalry will achieve anything?

Man you can send 20 Jason for all i care you anit defeating 80 units worth of army with 20, thats your classic flawed example.

@BornWinter52864

If the developers had listened to me

Wow, how narcisistic you can be. No, you are not right on this, its been explained to you time and time again, but you will keep complaining either way, doesnt matter what happens. Theres plenty of ways to deal with archers. Norse doesnt have 0% winrates against any god or god paths. Buy its easier to complain than put the effort on getting better.

@BornWinter52864

The game is awful

Dont play it, if its horrible for you theres plenty of other things to do. All you do in the forum is comlain, post flawed simulations and ignore all contrary comments. Its obvious you are a troll, the only reason i engage you is so other people are not drawned in by that false logic and see theres actual alternatives in game currently.

@BornWinter52864

IN TEAM GAMES, PLAYERS NO LONGER USE LIGHT CAVALRY TO COUNTER ARCHER SPAM, DO YOU UNDERSTAND?

They still do, plenty.

[Urban_Hunter]

To be fair, it’s worth noting that the current meta on Hades is to make a mix of hippei and toxotes, not hoplites.

[FloosWorld]

@BornWinter52864

You all even asked a moderator to close my threads to silence my opinion.

Why are you still sticking to that lie?

Again for you, even in bold font specifically for you as you apparently don’t want to understand it if someone writes it normally: This is a gaming forum, not a political space. Here, your opinion does not get “silenced”. You are not the only person on this forum and get no different treatment than anyone else. DO YOU UNDERSTAND?