Please remove developer implemented map hack

Age of Empires IV IV - Discussion
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Seeing Boar and Deer through fog of war is a developer introduced map hack that should not be in the game. This buffs cav civs to easily monitor food resources through FOW and raid. also removes the use of scouting.

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I agree, it’s a confusing and needless mechanic

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It’s probably because if you couldn’t see them, then targeting them for harvest would be super annoying.

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Still doesnt excuse the unfair advantage you get when seeing them disappear. Pro scouting gives you huge boost in resources. If you can’t manage doing few more clicks to get that advantage, I don’t know what to say. Fixing this is mandatory for healthy competitive play especially when the game is getting more tournaments with money involved. There are many other issues like this. Units “knowing” that the certain side is walled and changing their pathing. You can click on the fog and check by the crosshair animation if there is water or land.
This is just lazy development which wasnt persistent in RTS games even 20 years ago

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That’s how pathing works in any RTS I have ever seen (it’s less apparent when games don’t use walls so much).

The alternative is way more complicated and computationally demanding and would feel janky in some circumstances anyway.

It’s really not at all. It works that way for everyone, there’s nothing “unfair" about it.

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  1. 20 years ago warcraft 3 didnt have these pathing issues. If one side was blocked with buildings, units would not magically know about that and changed pathing until actually arriving there. Please dont talk about computation demands when ancient games on our old PCs had this working perfectly.

  2. Yes nothing “unfair” when couple of years ago pro player was banned using this technique for checking if the side is walled or not. And devs got involved basically saying its illegal while the game itself allows you to do this. They leave an exploit in the game and dont allow you to use it in tournaments. Isnt that ridiculous?

You’re clueless and will mindlessly defend any imperfections or lazy development.

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One of the key abilities of Sengoku Dynasty is having all deer and boar revealed at the start of the match. This worsens the things OP lays out, in terms of having vision in fog of war and what not.

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Agreed, its a very DUMB mechanic and too OP for the new japan

they should need to scout it