Sudden dessaster 2 was AMAZING, as was SD 1 last year. Entertainment value has been off the charts. It would be amazing for 1 map in each map pool be sudden death! We should do it once, soon while the SD hype is still buzzing, and see how it works!
I do think some UI work will be necessary to make this map stand out so that players can easily know they are playing sudden death and not standard RM.
What do you guys think, worth a try? Can you think of any risks, e.g. is it likely to encourage some not-fun playstyle? Which maps would work well? Here are some that come to mind for me
1v1: Canberra, Hideout, Hill Fort, Socotra, Cliffbound, Shrubland, Water nomad
Team: All the 1v1 maps above + maps with imbalanced player placement - Frontline, Coastal forest
Would love to hear your thoughts, especially those who feel this is a bad idea - why?
- Would love to have 1 sudden death map in the map pool to see how well it works!
- Nah, i would ban any sudden death map
Tbh, we don’t need a map with sudden death, we need a mode for it. I think there should be four ranked gamemodes with this perhaps being one of them. Also, we could have a mode rotation as I think Hera has suggested in the past where we regularly swap out what is now the empire wars queue for different game plays like diplomacy, FFA 8 player, or as you said sudden death.
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Every map in the current ranked queue has the same victory conditions: “Conquest mode”.
“Sudden Death” is not just a new start like “Nomad” or a horse as a Scout, it’s a victory condition, so it should be separated in its own queue.
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I think adding a new mode just makes it messy… its much more dev and UI work, there’ll be a new ladder, etc, and we don’t know for sure if it’ll add value. 1v1 arabia and arena require very different playstyle but are in the same ladder. Maybe 1 sudden death map could be too, to see if the community loves/hates it. Based on the data we can remove it, or keep it, or make it its own game mode.
I do agree that it is a victory condition, but the ladder is just “Random Map 1v1”, so i feel it is ok to have a SD map in it, as long as it is clearly demarcated (perhaps in a separate color) from all the other maps.
I wonder, why must it be added as a separate ladder. Same for empire wars, why cant empire wars only apply to certain maps where it makes sense.
Fortress could have a version called Fortress - Regicide, where the win condition is now regicide, or Socotra - Sudden Death added to the map pool. Just put it in the voting and see if people like it.
I think with all the additional information now on the loading screen, players shouldnt be surprised.
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I agree! We can just add 1 map and make it clear its Sudden Death (or empire wars for that matter in the future). Let’s see whether its popular or not!
You have a point!
Or two, actually.
The new loading screen makes a difference. Still, only after the game is almost starting… It should show also while you can still pick a civ, position and discuss strategies with your teammates.
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