Fans of the setting dislike it for heavily abridging the story and stopping on the Red Cliffs (why is Liu Bei’s civ Shu if the campaign doesn’t even reach his conquest of Sichuan?)
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The 3K were insignificant though.
China reunified 60 years after they arrive, and nothing of consequence happened because of their existence. China just goes on splitting and unifying around and around again.
Huns do actually have a huge affect on their surroundings. Pushing the Roman Empire to the brink, forcing the migration of thousands of people etc.
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No, I disagree. I come from an East Asian country where the Three Kingdoms story is extremely popular, and it actually received very heavy criticism.
First, many fans felt that the original story was distorted.
Think about it this way: imagine a story claiming that King Arthur was actually a woman who founded the Seven Ancient Kingdoms of Britain. Would fans really welcome that? Of course not. That is how many Three Kingdoms fans felt about this interpretation.
Second, Age of Empires II is Age of Empires II, and the Three Kingdoms is the Three Kingdoms.
Even among Three Kingdoms fans, there was not a single person who truly wanted it to appear in AOE2, because the time period does not match the game’s historical scope.
In short, popularity of the Three Kingdoms does not automatically mean it fits well into AOE2’s setting or design philosophy.
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That’s why I said “might be”. I know that there are many issues with the 3 Kingdoms part.
But for someone who doesn’t play the campaign or wants to make their own 3 Kingdoms campaigns/scenarios it does add a lot of things to play around with.
I personally didn’t even touch the campaigns but I do like the civs. Since I don’t play ranked the civs didn’t feel more out of place then the Chronicles civs for me, which essentially are just additional civs to play with.
If it would have been a spin off like Chronicles I think most people would have been happy. Now we have 3 Kingdoms civs with European looking units and Japanese looking buildings.
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Yes, you’re right. Because I’m writing in a translated style, my wording may sound more aggressive than I intend, and I ask for your understanding.
I believe there is only one way to solve the problem with the Three Kingdoms content:
to integrate it into the game as a chronological (historical) campaign, rather than as a separate or altered interpretation.
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Basically V&V was for console players really as we don’t have mods
Actually disagree I brought the game after years away as I’m on console and that got me to buy it but the sorry shouldn’t of been historically correct
Cysion mentioned it in a TownCenter interview in a chat with Viper
Cysion also said that Chinese wouldn’t be split.
Cysion said that no new civs would be added.
When i said that the devs constantly lie I got suspended, so I won’t say that again. I will say however that everything he says needs to be taken with an entire truck load of salt
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Cysion said they needed 5 civs to tell the stories they wanted to tell.
Cysion said they had no interest adding insignificant civs.
Cysion said he simply didn’t have enough time to clarify what he meant, even tho if he’d removed the last sentence or so from every response, he would also have removed the…“controversial” aspect of the response. Also weird how Cysion just didn’t have enough time to clarify his responses, when Nili was not so encumbered by the very same format on the very same podcast a few months later.
They said V&V was a campaign focused expansion with polished scenarios, inspired by filithydelphia’s scenarios.
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whaaat 
i’m sorry to hear that
This is true! The Three Kingdoms campaigns feature five civs: Shu, Wei, Wu, Chinese, and Huns
What, you thought he was talking about the five new civs?!
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Haha lol. got me there. Yeah Masmorra asks why the DLC is so big, but really how could Cysion know we were talking about new civs. Rescind all my sniping towards Cysion, it wasn’t clear. There was a problem with the format that only affected Cysion’s understanding of questions and not Nili’s.
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I slipped up though. I said “The Three Kingdoms campaigns feature five civs: Shu, Wei, Wu, Chinese, and Huns” but only two of those are civilisations. The others are “forces”.
So actually, the Three Kingdoms campaigns required no new civs whatsoever.
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Now that’s not fair, different scenarios need factions. you add up all the individual instances where a civilization appears and surely there’s five civs there. How was Cysion supposed to know that counting the same civ in separate scenarios wasn’t what we were talking about?
Oh yeah, cause the format was so bad that Cysion had problems with it even though it was fine for Nili. I keep forgetting.
I fear that the upcoming AoE4 DLC introducing a Chinese campaign will prevent AoE2 to get the equivalent treatment in the future.
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If possible, can you give us your insights into what you’d say the vast majority of Chinese players of AoE2 would’ve wanted as DLC?
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There is no need to search far for sources. On the day the DLC was released, many Chinese users expressed criticism both here and on Reddit (especially on Reddit, from what I recall).
If the majority of Chinese players had welcomed the DLC, it is unlikely that it would have received such negative reviews on Steam.
Yes, although I don’t rule out the possibility that at some point they might include a Chinese campaign for 2DE…
I don’t think I follow? Especially when a lot of AoE4 campaigns and scenarios are, narratively, rehashes of AoE2 ones.