# Problems with South American Maps **URL:** \ **Category:** III - Discussion\ **Created:** [August 10, 2026, 9:57pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/problems-with-south-american-maps/288719 "2026-08-10T21:57:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Neon1002](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/neon1002/32/213824_2.png) [@Neon1002](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Neon1002)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2026, 11:05pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/problems-with-south-american-maps/288719/61 "2026-08-15T23:05:45Z")
> [@SvenKuechler1](#): > > Mapuche y tupi - Brasil y Argentina? > Uno podria ser “South American Warchiefs” > y el Otro podria ser “War of the Triple Allience” o “Empires of the Sara mí, un DLC federal debería incluir a Argentina, Brasil y Colombia. Podría llamarse “Liberators from the South” o algo parecido y dar por terminado el ciclo de civilizaciones post-coloniales En mi opinión, un DLC federal debería, idealmente, incluir a Argentina, Brasil y Colombia. Podría llamarse “Liberators of the South” o algo parecido y cerrar el tema de las civis post-coloniales por un tiempo. De todas formas, no creo que sea realista tener a las tres en un solo DLC (o algún DLC en el futuro ya que estamos), por lo que lo más interesante sería optar por la rivalidad Argentina-Brasil por razones temáticas y se podría llamar “Rivals/Foes of the South”. En cuanto a los nativos, siempre me gustó la idea del combo Mapuche+Guaraníes y que puedan, con envíos, tecnologías o revoluciones, terminar asemejándose a Chile y Paraguay respectivamente. ---
**Author:** ![Neon1002](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/neon1002/32/213824_2.png) [@Neon1002](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Neon1002)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2026, 11:08pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/problems-with-south-american-maps/288719/62 "2026-08-15T23:08:18Z")
What a wonderful map! It would be awesome to add a new map called Valley of the Moon, featuring fossil deposits that grant experience when mined, helping to compensate for the lack of Trading Posts. [Ischigualasto Provincial Park - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ischigualasto_Provincial_Park) > [@miller\_21st](#): > > 1. Qhapaq Ñan is the former Inca road system that I think it can have its own map, but I didn’t represent it in the map, there is just a note It would be amazing if every minor native civilization in South America (except the Zapotecs, Mayans, and Jesuits) were represented on the map, reflecting how the Incas had constant contact and established relations with many cultures across the continent. There could also be a trade route with capturable Tambos, similar to the Silk Road map. > [@miller\_21st](#): > > Misiones Perfect for the Iguazu Falls! ---
**Author:** ![HoopThrower](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/hoopthrower/32/56873_2.png) [@HoopThrower](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/HoopThrower)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2026, 12:24am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/problems-with-south-american-maps/288719/63 "2026-08-16T00:24:03Z")
Por supuesto que no sería realista tener a las tres civs. Dos de ellas son civs patriotas. ---
**Author:** ![Neon1002](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/neon1002/32/213824_2.png) [@Neon1002](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Neon1002)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2026, 1:23am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/problems-with-south-american-maps/288719/64 "2026-08-16T01:23:31Z")
> [@HoopThrower](#): > > Por supuesto que no sería realista tener a las tres civs. Medio obvio la verdad, va más por el lado de que quizás lo mejor es sacar una tanda “grande” de civis post-coloniales, dar por cerrado el tema y pasar a otras partes del mundo. Sobretodo porque son civilizaciones “polémicas” y “odiadas” por un sector de la comunidad que minimiza lo divertido o interesante que podrían ser de jugar o el “”“mérito”“” (🤌🏻) que tienen de estar en el juego. ---
**Author:** ![M00Z1LLA](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/m00z1lla/32/104042_2.png) [@M00Z1LLA](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/M00Z1LLA)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2026, 6:11am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/problems-with-south-american-maps/288719/65 "2026-08-16T06:11:18Z")
> [@miller\_21st](#): > > 1. Valley of Mexico map is what some people here call Lake Texcoco. I’m against calling it Lake Texcoco because the Valley of Mexico is more accurate both as a bioregion and historically because Conquistadors by far used that name more. What about calling it [Anahuac](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anahuac_(Aztec))? ---
**Author:** ![MatM1996](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/matm1996/32/29566_2.png) [@MatM1996](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/MatM1996)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2026, 11:18pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/problems-with-south-american-maps/288719/66 "2026-08-16T23:18:10Z")
> [@Neon1002](#): > > After seeing the volcano on the Iceland map, what landmarks could be added to possible South American maps? I think a map set in or around Iguazú Falls could be pretty interesting. [Iguazu Falls - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iguazu_Falls) Yes, something like the Tupi wonder in some AoE 3 map like Pampas Sierras… ![Tupi_Wonder_sprite_AoE2DE](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/ageofempires/images/6/69/Tupi_Wonder_sprite_AoE2DE.gif/revision/latest?cb=20260218103442) > [@SvenKuechler1](#): > > quizas lo mejor seria: Mapuche y tupi - Brasil y Argentina? > Uno podria ser “South American Warchiefs” > y el Otro podria ser “War of the Triple Allience” o “Empires of the South” (y se podria aprovechar para hacer una campaña historica sobre la guerra contra paraguay (y aprovechar de poner a paraguay como revolucion) Sí, eso suena bien… > [@Neon1002](#): > > En mi opinión, un DLC federal debería, idealmente, incluir a Argentina, Brasil y Colombia. Podría llamarse “Liberators of the South” o algo parecido y cerrar el tema de las civis post-coloniales por un tiempo. De todas formas, no creo que sea realista tener a las tres en un solo DLC (o algún DLC en el futuro ya que estamos), por lo que lo más interesante sería optar por la rivalidad Argentina-Brasil por razones temáticas y se podría llamar “Rivals/Foes of the South”. Sí, en el AoE 3 clásico seguramente habría sido así…pero no me molesta tener un dlc Argentina-Brasil y luego otro Colombia-Haití (ya que Bolívar se exilió a Haití en los 1810s antes de regresar a Venezuela en 1817 como se ve en la campaña Acero)… > [@Neon1002](#): > > En cuanto a los nativos, siempre me gustó la idea del combo Mapuche+Guaraníes y que puedan, con envíos, tecnologías o revoluciones, terminar asemejándose a Chile y Paraguay respectivamente. Sí, igual Chile podría ser una civ federal en algún momento, ya que tuvo su momento de federalismo en su momento… > [@Neon1002](#): > > Medio obvio la verdad, va más por el lado de que quizás lo mejor es sacar una tanda “grande” de civis post-coloniales, dar por cerrado el tema y pasar a otras partes del mundo. Sobretodo porque son civilizaciones “polémicas” y “odiadas” por un sector de la comunidad que minimiza lo divertido o interesante que podrían ser de jugar o el “”“mérito”“” (:pinched\_fingerst2:) que tienen de estar en el juego. Pfff…que se manejen…Argentina es uno de los países que más jugadores de AoE tiene (después de Estados Unidos, China y Alemania) y Brasil pues fue un imperio puro y duro… ---
**Author:** ![HoopThrower](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/hoopthrower/32/56873_2.png) [@HoopThrower](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/HoopThrower)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2026, 1:20am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/problems-with-south-american-maps/288719/67 "2026-08-17T01:20:14Z")
Out of all places why Pampas Sierras? ---
**Author:** ![RatcicleFan](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/ratciclefan/32/115119_2.png) [@RatcicleFan](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/RatcicleFan)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2026, 2:57am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/problems-with-south-american-maps/288719/68 "2026-08-17T02:57:00Z")
I think he means the biome and not the map itself, but I still don’t understand why specifically that. > [@miller\_21st](#): > > ![ec8a7d86c13df19312e52dc42adb595a1](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/d/a/daff81cad1fbba7ba5bceed150c28e51e4579f99.jpeg) I mentioned it a few times, but I’d rename the current Amazonia map to Manaus. ---
**Author:** ![MatM1996](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/matm1996/32/29566_2.png) [@MatM1996](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/MatM1996)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2026, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/problems-with-south-american-maps/288719/69 "2026-08-17T14:43:33Z")
> [@HoopThrower](#): > > Out of all places why Pampas Sierras? > [@RatcicleFan](#): > > I think he means the biome and not the map itself, but I still don’t understand why specifically that. Because currently the Iguazu Falls would be in Pampas Sierras…🤷‍♂️ > [@RatcicleFan](#): > > I mentioned it a few times, but I’d rename the current Amazonia map to Manaus. Yes, with that map you have enough space for about 25 to 50 maps of South America… ---
**Author:** ![Neon1002](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/neon1002/32/213824_2.png) [@Neon1002](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Neon1002)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2026, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/problems-with-south-american-maps/288719/70 "2026-08-17T19:09:54Z")
Does anyone have ideas for good flora and fauna that could fit in South America? It would be great to see some penguins and seals in the Araucanía and Patagonia maps, along with some treasures guarded by orcas. ---
**Author:** ![RatcicleFan](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/ratciclefan/32/115119_2.png) [@RatcicleFan](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/RatcicleFan)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2026, 7:47pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/problems-with-south-american-maps/288719/71 "2026-08-17T19:47:49Z")
> [@MatM1996](#): > > Because currently the Iguazu Falls would be in Pampas Sierras…🤷‍♂️ Pampas Sierras is misplaced compared to real life though: ![image](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/0/2/02f37549e82030842bdfa484b04f8bb0366c3905.jpeg) This is where it should be: ![Sierras_pampeanas1](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/f/d/fd83d28397fcb35ad7a465eb0c93c78b07ea786e.png) And this is where Iguazu would be: ![image](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/6/2/626e0e8e4884eb31a431370e58182afa20bb88f9.png) ---
**Author:** ![HoopThrower](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/hoopthrower/32/56873_2.png) [@HoopThrower](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/HoopThrower)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2026, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/problems-with-south-american-maps/288719/72 "2026-08-17T20:21:11Z")
I mean more than seals I’d say they should have Sea Lions. (Similar but very distinct families). Can’t think of many more animals that’d fit in Araucania but don’t exist already. Like sure you could have Pudu, but I don’t think dog-sized deers would make for good huntables. More than Orcas I’d say white whales would be cool if you want some flavor in your treasure guardians. Now the Chaco and the Amazon could use a lot more variety, Giant Anteater, Guará Guazú, peccari, etc. ---
**Author:** ![RatcicleFan](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/ratciclefan/32/115119_2.png) [@RatcicleFan](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/RatcicleFan)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2026, 8:31pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/problems-with-south-american-maps/288719/73 "2026-08-17T20:31:36Z")
![image](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/e/1/e10d859310c787769418c04bda87c62ff99c45a0.jpeg) I’d split the territory currently covered by Amazonia on the loading screen into at least five maps. There could be Pará and Marajó like miller/Lil’ Thumb already suggested, Manaus (which as I said would be the current map but renamed), Roraima and maybe Acre (or whatever was the name before Brazil annexed it) and I guess Rondônia? > [@miller\_21st](#): > > ![ec8a7d86c13df19312e52dc42adb595a1](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/d/a/daff81cad1fbba7ba5bceed150c28e51e4579f99.jpeg) Also I don’t have a good suggestion for an alternative, but I think Cerrado is in a weird position here (though the circled area IS considered part of Cerrado) Also, Minas Gerais includes grey wolves, which don’t exist south of Mexico, as can be seen in this official screenshot: ![image](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/5/5/557bf627fcd3137181fb030b6450d168bce94acf.jpeg) They’re not as violent, but for variety I’d replace them with maned wolves (also known as Aguará Guazú, or as Lobo Guará in Portuguese): ![news-maned-wolf-luzia-brazil-1035803-credit-oncafari-chiara-bortoloto-min-7291563](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/c/9/c994b2e9838f88aa230fe60effffb70c9676d31f.jpeg) They could potentially show up in Gran Chaco and Pampas Sierras too, out of the current maps, but should be left out of Amazonia. ---
**Author:** ![OperaticShip743](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/operaticship743/32/104612_2.png) [@OperaticShip743](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/OperaticShip743)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2026, 9:46pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/problems-with-south-american-maps/288719/74 "2026-08-17T21:46:49Z")
> [@Neon1002](#): > > Does anyone have ideas for good flora and fauna that could fit in South America? Yes, the moors. It would cover a large territory in northern South America (Colombia, Venezuela, Ecuador). It could have rabbits, foxes, spectacled bears, and the native Muisca people as a minor faction. ![image](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/9/6/96ceaa3c04e9b4903b1063b73b938513fd15868c.png) ![image](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/e/8/e890497c13654826d8b81ee5c02ba74129c9a499.png) ![image](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/2/b/2ba6e006b401b96354c1c9880a05ff24568e81cf.png) ---
**Author:** ![Neon1002](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/neon1002/32/213824_2.png) [@Neon1002](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Neon1002)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2026, 10:27pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/problems-with-south-american-maps/288719/75 "2026-08-17T22:27:01Z")
> [@HoopThrower](#): > > I mean more than seals I’d say they should have Sea Lions. (Similar but very distinct families). Oh, yes, sea lions would fit much better on both the Araucanía and Patagonia maps > [@HoopThrower](#): > > Can’t think of many more animals that’d fit in Araucania but don’t exist already. Like sure you could have Pudu, but I don’t think dog-sized deers would make for good huntables. Some environmental cliffs with condors would be fine, I think, and the huemul could be added to the current map as well. > [@HoopThrower](#): > > More than Orcas I’d say white whales would be cool if you want some flavor in your treasure guardians. I think either would be fine. I like the orcas idea because spotting them near the shore is a common activity in the Patagonia. > [@OperaticShip743](#): > > Yes, the moors. It would cover a large territory in northern South America (Colombia, Venezuela, Ecuador) Adding some common trees like Lapacho and Jacarandá could also bring more life to the maps, and they could appear on many of them, such as Gran Chaco, Minas Gerais, Pampas Sierra, Andes, and Pampa. [Lapacho](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handroanthus_impetiginosus) ![1920px-055_Pink_Ipê_tree_in_Mato_Grosso_Photo_by_Giles_Laurent](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/7/1/711f29435a260e77023e5fe7484a92062ac6355d.jpeg) [Jacaranda](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacaranda_mimosifolia) ![1280px-New_Farm_Park_Jacaranda-001+_(273298097)](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/6/0/60b8db1c2e063409d13f3fdf9bde48efc52805dd.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![RatcicleFan](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/ratciclefan/32/115119_2.png) [@RatcicleFan](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/RatcicleFan)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2026, 10:44pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/problems-with-south-american-maps/288719/76 "2026-08-17T22:44:44Z")
I’d love to see Yellow Ipê (and Ipê trees in general) in more games. ![yellow-ype-amarelo-tree-2219457958](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/f/5/f5cbe7d923c23df37c512715b05f6bd06a0e211b.jpeg) I think Lapacho might be the same tree that is known as Pink Ipê in Brazil. ![muda_de_ipe_rosa_feita_de_semente_10791_1_20190808175908-1269792768](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/4/a/4a0f5aa3bc9614b133994bcdc4c4a6734b6ecd13.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Neon1002](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/neon1002/32/213824_2.png) [@Neon1002](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Neon1002)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2026, 12:19am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/problems-with-south-american-maps/288719/77 "2026-08-18T00:19:08Z")
Yes, they’re the same. Here in northwestern Argentina, we call them Lapacho, and they can be pink, yellow, or even white. ![images (2)](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/e/5/e509edbd1e928b4479504d4e401053ccfe99bc3c.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![MatM1996](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/matm1996/32/29566_2.png) [@MatM1996](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/MatM1996)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2026, 12:44am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/problems-with-south-american-maps/288719/78 "2026-08-18T00:44:20Z")
> [@RatcicleFan](#): > > Pampas Sierras is misplaced compared to real life though: Oh well yes, that’s true, but that’s what’s currently in the game…😅 ---
**Author:** ![OperaticShip743](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/operaticship743/32/104612_2.png) [@OperaticShip743](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/OperaticShip743)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2026, 12:53am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/problems-with-south-american-maps/288719/79 "2026-08-18T00:53:53Z")
> [@Neon1002](#): > > Adding some common trees like Lapacho and Jacarandá could also bring more life to the maps, and they could appear on many of them, such as Gran Chaco, Minas Gerais, Pampas Sierra, Andes, and Pampa. I have a somewhat old thread talking about this aspect of the game: > [@\[BIOMES\] Post here biomes (wildlife, flora, water and terrain) of any continent that you would like to see in the future](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/biomes-post-here-biomes-wildlife-flora-water-and-terrain-of-any-continent-that-you-would-like-to-see-in-the-future/176152): > > I am fond of nature and that is why I want to see which regions and ecosystems you would like to see converted into digital files in AOE-3 DE. Propose gaia elements such as fauna that is only for decoration in the game. Example: Styles of water (crystalline waters, oceanic waters, turbid waters, reefs, etc). The weeds that surround it and the fauna that inhabits them. Example: Trees and weeds of all kinds. (Ferns, chamizas, dead trees, etc) Examp… ---
**Author:** ![Neon1002](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/neon1002/32/213824_2.png) [@Neon1002](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Neon1002)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2026, 3:10am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/problems-with-south-american-maps/288719/80 "2026-08-18T03:10:34Z")
Very good post! It’s a little sad to see how most South American maps don’t have the same level of detail as the North American ones. I mean, even the African ones at least have African animals in their treasures, like meerkats, while in South America we have… beavers and otters. And not even the South American otters…the ones big enough to be guardians, mind you. [Previous page](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/problems-with-south-american-maps/288719.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/problems-with-south-american-maps/288719.md?page=5)