Raiju special should not be able to be applied multiple times if its used/casted at the same time

Age of Mythology: Retold Discussion
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This “strat” has been broken (in tgs) since japan’s release; its extremely unfun and should ideally not exist or at least be severly nerfed.

1tc Susanoo fh with some kitsune harass into Raiju spam. And it works so well beacuse the dmg of the Raiju special attack can be stacked if its used simultaneously (by casting it manually). All you need is 3 Raiju to wipe a whole group of villagers.

And even though manually stacking Raiju specials with Amaterasu is already broken, Susanoo takes it to an extreme level beacuse of his incredible synergy with said strat:

  • He unlocks Bushido too fast compared to Tsuko/Ama
  • His bushido reward granting instant chunks of favor is both highly synergistic with this strat and (imo) too much resources up-front - a favor trickle or something completly different would be a much more healthy balance lever. Its not rare to see Susanoo players unlocking Bushido T2 at ~7-8:XX mins just by running around with 4-6 Kitsune, which grants the bushido favor reward at the perfect moment to start spamming Raiju.
  • 33% reduced MU special cooldown means he can kill more villagers in a shorter timespan
  • His unique tech granting bonus movespeed and true dmg not only facilitates the bushido gains during kitsune raids, it also makes chasing both kitsune and raiju almost impossible and extremly frustrating.

Seeing someone abuse the aforementioned susanoo raiju raiding strat to the absolute extreme vs someone casually playing amaterasu and using some raiju to raid (without abusing/stacking the special attacks) is night and day - and even then I would love to see some of the Raiju speed shifted towards other stats to lower frustration and increase counterplay to the raids.

This game perfectly showcases the issues I just described.

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Yes, this strat is absurd. Perhaps the most practical solution is to reduce the AoE of the Raiju and increase their base attack damage to compensate. It should take at least 5 raiju to one shot villagers. Players are going fast heroic and then running around with raiju at like 6.5 speed and killing 30+ villagers before the 12:00 minute mark.

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I dont know what should change exactly but imo, the oneshot via manual multicast has to go - its just way too strong and has almost 0 counterplay.

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“just build walls man” Boit 2026

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I srsly hope we can get a change for this in a future patch, its way overdue. Almost everyone who plays Susanoo (or Amaterasu) is abusing this “feature” and its neither healthy for the game nor balanced. (Content creators like HUSKSUPPE are even showing it in their videos and point out how to abuse the special…)

Baseline, Raiju are already a strong raiding unit, they shouldnt be able to eclipse everything else in efficiency.

Also, @devs, take another look at the way kitsune speed boost works - imo it should never push units (even itself or other kitsune) to speeds above 6.0. Seeing Susanoo players run amok across the map with up to 7.XX speed on their kitsune is disgusting. Not a single unit in the entire game can catch up to these. Think about that and make the appropriate changes.

If I was in charge of balancing these I would cap them at 6.00 speed and only allow them to enhance other units’s speed stats up to 6.00 - meaning its useless with Raiju or other already very fast units, preventing the aforementioned abuse cases. And obviously, get rid of the 10% MU speed boost tech from Susanoo and change it to something else…but that should be a no-brainer.