# Ranking is Broken

**URL:** <https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/ranking-is-broken/111323>\
**Category:** III - Report a Bug\
**Created:** [December 13, 2020, 11:31pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/ranking-is-broken/111323 "2020-12-13T23:31:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![FedSmoker5827](https://forums.ageofempires.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/90db22/32.png) [@FedSmoker5827](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/FedSmoker5827)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 11:31pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/ranking-is-broken/111323/1 "2020-12-13T23:31:39Z")

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### ▶ GAME INFORMATION

- **BUILD #:** ######
- **PLATFORM:**  **Steam**
- **OS:**  **Windows 10**

### ▶ ISSUE EXPERIENCED

❓ _DESCRIBE THE ISSUE IN DETAIL (below). Limit to ONE issue per thread._

**Check top players on the treaty leader boards, alot have very few games yet are at the top. Example, there is a player with 10 wins 0 looses who is #1.**

### ▶ FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

❓ _How often does the issue occur? CHOSE ONE; DELETE THE REST._

- **100%** **of the time / matches I play (ALWAYS)**

### ▶ REPRODUCTION STEPS

❓ _List the DETAILED STEPS we can take to reproduce the issue… Be descriptive!_

Here’s the steps to reproduce the issue:

**1. Check Leader boards**

### ▶ EXPECTED RESULT

❓ _What was supposed to happen if the bug you encountered were not present?_

**Accurate rankings.**

### ▶ ACTUAL RESULT

❓ _What actually happened (what went wrong) because of the issue you’re reporting?_

**Looks dumb.**

### ▶ GAME FILES

❓ _Include a [OneDrive or Google Drive link](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/how-to-find-and-share-save-game-and-recorded-game-files/102084) to a SAVE GAME or REPLAY FILE (.aoe2record) of the match where you encountered the issue._

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### ▶ IMAGE & ATTACHMENTS

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**Author:** ![Harchah](https://forums.ageofempires.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Harchah](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Harchah)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 12:37pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/ranking-is-broken/111323/2 "2020-12-15T12:37:01Z")

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For some reason one category of ranking influences your rank in other categories. For example a top supremacy 1v1 player only has to play 1-2 games to become top treaty player, as his elo from supremacy 1v1 (for example 1900) is then transferred to treaty after he wins one game (doesn’t matter how good the opponent is).

This makes some sense for supremacy 1v1 and supremacy team, but not so much for people going from supremacy to treaty or deathmatch, as these game modes are played completely differently in the competitive scene.

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**Author:** ![UnlimitedSnaky](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/unlimitedsnaky/32/30151_2.png) [@UnlimitedSnaky](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/UnlimitedSnaky)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 1:07am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/ranking-is-broken/111323/4 "2020-12-17T01:07:11Z")

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Would only be a problem in the other way around. A top supremacy player will always be top in treaty or deathmatch.

A treaty player could be top in treaty but only worth a ms in supremacy.

So I don’t see a problem if it doesn’t affect the ladder the other way.

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**Author:** ![Harchah](https://forums.ageofempires.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Harchah](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Harchah)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 8:17am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/ranking-is-broken/111323/5 "2020-12-18T08:17:04Z")

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That is not true, the top 10 supremacy players would lose to top 10 treaty players when playing treaty 40.

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**Author:** ![DirefulLily9407](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/direfullily9407/32/29258_2.png) [@DirefulLily9407](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/DirefulLily9407)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 8:43am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/ranking-is-broken/111323/6 "2020-12-18T08:43:03Z")

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this issue is currently being tracked, thanks for the report!

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**Author:** ![Karlosdl](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/karlosdl/32/61875_2.png) [@Karlosdl](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Karlosdl)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 10:42pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/ranking-is-broken/111323/7 "2020-12-18T22:42:14Z")

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I could even risk to say top 50 Tr40 players win top 50 supremacy players (on treaty). People underestimate treaty players fight potential
