I’m thinking that with that argument, you could have Visigoths and Ostrogoths
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Why not? We can then have one Goths using Mediterranean Architecture Style and one with the old one current one.
OP is an expert in this topic. If he is not satisfied with the current civ you know there’s a problem with the civ design.
The civ design isnt historically accurate nor particularly good but this is the Armenian civ we have. Theres a lot of the world to cover and Armenians are far from being rhe only ridiculously inaccurate civ
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The Armenian Kingdom of Cilicia (Middle Armenian: Կիլիկիոյ Հայոց Թագաւորութիւն, Kiligio Hayoc’ T’akavorut’iun), also known as Cilician Armenia (Armenian: Կիլիկեան Հայաստան, Kilikyan Hayastan), Lesser Armenia, Little Armenia or New Armenia,[2] was an Armenian state formed during the High Middle Ages by Armenian refugees fleeing the Seljuk invasion of Armenia.[3] Located outside the Armenian Highlands and distinct from the Kingdom of Armenia of antiquity, it was centered in the Cilicia region northwest of the Gulf of Alexandretta.
The kingdom had its origins in the principality founded c. 1080 by the Rubenid dynasty, an alleged offshoot of the larger Bagratuni dynasty, which at various times had held the throne of Armenia. Their capital was originally at Tarsus, and later moved to Sis.[4] Cilicia was a strong ally of the European Crusaders, and saw itself as a bastion of Christendom in the East. It also served as a focal point for Armenian cultural production, since Armenia proper was under foreign occupation at the time. Cilicia’s significance in Armenian history and statehood is also attested by the transfer of the seat of the Catholicos of the Armenian Apostolic Church, spiritual leader of the Armenian people, to the region.
In 1198, with the crowning of Leo I, King of Armenia of the Rubenid dynasty, Cilician Armenia became a kingdom.[5][6] In 1226, the crown was passed to the rival Hethumid dynasty through Leo’s daughter Isabella’s second husband, Hethum I. As the Mongols conquered vast regions of Central Asia and the Middle East, Hethum and succeeding Hethumid rulers sought to create an Armeno-Mongol alliance against common Muslim foes, most notably the Mamluks.[6] In the thirteenth and fourteenth centuries, the Crusader states and the Mongol Ilkhanate disintegrated, leaving the Armenian Kingdom without any regional allies. After relentless attacks by the Mamluks in Egypt in the fourteenth century, the Armenian Kingdom of Cilicia, then under the rule of the Lusignan dynasty and mired in an internal religious conflict, finally fell in 1375.[7]
Commercial and military interactions with Europeans brought new Western influences to the Cilician Armenian society. Many aspects of Western European life were adopted by the nobility including chivalry, fashions in clothing, and the use of French titles, names, and language. Moreover, the organization of the Cilician society shifted from its traditional system to become closer to Western feudalism.[8] The European Crusaders themselves borrowed know-how, such as elements of Armenian castle-building and church architecture.[9] Cilician Armenia thrived economically, with the port of Ayas serving as a center for East–West trade.
Middle East in 1165 (in the middle of the Thoros campaign)
Middle East in 1200 (in the middle of the Tamar campaign)
That’s splitting hairs
Is he? Is he an historian?
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He is the most knowledgeable person in this topic in the forum. That’s what he claims. I was thrashed by many and even silenced for one week for not agreeing to him.
that’s the point though…he claims
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Yeah but then the moderators also support him.
that sounds very armenian to me
Yes, let’s say that the Armenians fled to Cilicia in 1080 after the Seljuk invasions that began after the Turkish victory at Manzikert in 1071…Cilicia was conquered by the Byzantines in 1141, but recovered by Thoros in his campaign until his death in 1069, from there he was succeeded by his brothers and so on until the Rubenids gave way to the Hethumids in 1226 (with the Mongol invasions at their peak) (in the case of the Tamar campaign between 1193 and 1199 she conquered the former Armenian territories of the Seljuks)…After the crusades in the Middle East ended in 1291 and with Europe focused on the Baltic crusades and the 100 Years’ War, in 1341 Cilicia fell into the hands of the Lusignan of Cyprus, who finally dissolved the kingdom into 1375, making Armenia disappear forever until the end of WW1 in 1918…
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I may not be after all (since my area of interest in the subject is quite laser-focused), but I do still have a lot more knowledge on the subject than the average user, so my insight is still valuable to most people. I am not infallible, and have gotten things wrong in the past.
No, you repeatedly accused me of lying. Don’t manipulate the facts to make me look like the bad guy.
We’re lucky we even got Armenians. I say just wait for some changes.
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