# Renaming the Chinese to the Song Dynasty

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**Created:** [September 16, 2026, 10:07am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/renaming-the-chinese-to-the-song-dynasty/289685 "2026-09-16T10:07:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![IfDreamAwake](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/ifdreamawake/32/29838_2.png) [@IfDreamAwake](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/IfDreamAwake)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2026, 10:07am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/renaming-the-chinese-to-the-song-dynasty/289685/1 "2026-09-16T10:07:27Z")

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This will bring two benefits.

First, Chinese players will no longer complain that Chinese is too weak, as the Song Dynasty’s cavalry was inherently not powerful enough.

Second, would explain why there are multiple Chinese-speaking civs, and even allow for the possibility of developing more dynasty DLCs in the future, similar to the variant civilizations in Age of Empires IV.

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**Author:** ![MatM1996](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/matm1996/32/29566_2.png) [@MatM1996](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/MatM1996)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2026, 11:59am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/renaming-the-chinese-to-the-song-dynasty/289685/2 "2026-09-16T11:59:19Z")

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I don’t think they’ll do it, but in AoE 4 we might see a Song dynasty… and well, the Chinese in AoE 3 are a mix of Ming and Qing…

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**Author:** ![UnAutreVoyage](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/unautrevoyage/32/158016_2.png) [@UnAutreVoyage](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/UnAutreVoyage)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2026, 1:37pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/renaming-the-chinese-to-the-song-dynasty/289685/3 "2026-09-16T13:37:16Z")

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I disagree because it would be too similar to AoE4

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**Author:** ![Siegelad4112](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/siegelad4112/32/217608_2.png) [@Siegelad4112](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Siegelad4112)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2026, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/renaming-the-chinese-to-the-song-dynasty/289685/4 "2026-09-16T13:58:15Z")

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This ain’t AoE4, no need for Dynasties to be civs here.

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**Author:** ![IfDreamAwake](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/ifdreamawake/32/29838_2.png) [@IfDreamAwake](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/IfDreamAwake)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2026, 2:11pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/renaming-the-chinese-to-the-song-dynasty/289685/5 "2026-09-16T14:11:54Z")

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But how to explain 3k

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**Author:** ![Tyranno13](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/tyranno13/32/127995_2.png) [@Tyranno13](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Tyranno13)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2026, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/renaming-the-chinese-to-the-song-dynasty/289685/6 "2026-09-16T14:18:52Z")

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3K is a mistake that was used to bait Chinese audiances into parting with their money, in exchange for a low-quality product that does not fit in the game.

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**Author:** ![Mahazona](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/mahazona/32/213405_2.png) [@Mahazona](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Mahazona)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2026, 2:23pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/renaming-the-chinese-to-the-song-dynasty/289685/7 "2026-09-16T14:23:21Z")

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> [@IfDreamAwake](#):
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> But how to explain 3k

Nothing to explain its a dlc they made and thats it.dont like it dont buy it.

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**Author:** ![Crossil](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/crossil/32/213977_2.png) [@Crossil](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Crossil)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2026, 3:09pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/renaming-the-chinese-to-the-song-dynasty/289685/8 "2026-09-16T15:09:11Z")

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> [@IfDreamAwake](#):
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> But how to explain 3k

You don’t. You ask them to remove it.

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**Author:** ![Apocalypso4826](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/apocalypso4826/32/75648_2.png) [@Apocalypso4826](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Apocalypso4826)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2026, 8:24pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/renaming-the-chinese-to-the-song-dynasty/289685/9 "2026-09-16T20:24:43Z")

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That sounds familiar, because many Chinese products are like that in the West (or at least used to be). Maybe not so much anymore.