"Research Loom" and "Create Villager" share the same hotkey "A" for "HD Hotkeys"

Age of Empires II: DE II - Report a Bug
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:play_button: GAME INFORMATION

  • GAME BUILD #: Latest
  • GAME PLATFORM: Steam
  • OPERATING SYSTEM: Windows 11

:play_button: ISSUE EXPERIENCED

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  • The “A” hotkey in Town Center is assigned to two different things when using “HD Hotkeys”
    • “A” - Research Loom
    • “A” - Create Villager
  • It should only be assigned to “Create Villager”
  • This is a problem because when I start the game, I immediately select my TC and hit “A” a few times to get villager creations going. Since “Loom” has the same hotkey, it gets researched first… before any villagers get created :frowning:
    • My start routine for matches is pre-programmed in my muscle memory for years, going back to AoE2:HD days and earlier. And so I never look at the Town Center info in lower-right. I instead look at the map and coordinate things on the map itself, and use hotkeys
  • No wonder I’ve felt my starts have been a bit sluggish/lagging behind enemy AIs lately. They’re probably cranking out villagers right away while I’m busy researching Loom first :joy:

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  • I’m pretty sure this dual assignment of “A” is part of the default game and I didn’t accidentally assign this hotkey twice(?). (I just re-installed the game a few months ago, and unless I had weird rogue mouse-clicks, I definitely didn’t assign “A” to Loom. EDIT: I actually DID manually assign stuff… see my updates in future posts below. Also see the post by developer. I’m leaving the rest of my OP here unedited.)
  • I’ve wondered for a while where the “Loom” tech went. I’ve also wondered why my villagers have been so strong by default. I thought devs must have removed Loom and beefed up villagers to make the game easier for us or to dissuade early raids (akin to auto-scout, auto-farm reseeds, etc.)

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:play_button: FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

  • 100% of the time / matches I play (ALWAYS)

:play_button: REPRODUCTION STEPS

  1. Select Spanish civ, though others with Loom tech ability would do it, too
  2. Launch match
  3. Click Town Center
  4. Hit “A” immediately a few times, and you’ll see “Loom” starts being researched first rather than villagers being created

:play_button: EXPECTED RESULT

  • Villager should be created when “A” hotkey is used at Town Center
  • The Loom tech should not have any hotkey assigned whatsoever when using “HD Hotkeys”, since HD didn’t have a hotkey for this
    • If a hotkey must exist Loom, please assign some key other than “A” by default… and use a key that is not already in use

:play_button: IMAGE

Here is DE showing “A” hotkey for both “Research Loom” and “Create Villager”:

“HD Hotkeys” as seen in DE’s Settings. Notice “A” for both “Tech: Loom” and “Villager”:

AoE2:HD’s actual settings, though, only have “A” for Villager, as seen here. Loom is not even listed:

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Hi @Darkness01101
In HD Hotkeys by default Loom is not assigned to any key, the bug here is that you are not getting the warning message. I just checked and it seems that if you assign A to both, Villagers and loom, and you restart the game and check the hotkeys again, there is no warning message about both hotkeys clashing. A workaround to fix the issue is assigning Loom to a different hotkey or simply pressing on Reset All to reset all hotkeys.
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Thanks for the report!

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Interesting! Thank you. Sorry about that. I’m really not sure why I would have assigned a hotkey for that, but I must have!

EDIT: Okay, I remember now – I did manually author some keys here :wink: I saw the unassigned keys, and thought I should go ahead and put some in. At the time, I either thought it’d be okay to have “A” shared by vills and Loom (not realizing the impact on early game), or I didn’t notice the conflict at the moment (and maybe didn’t get an error msg? I probably did though), or didn’t care about the conflict.

Yeah, I just “Reset All” which made some unassigned stuff there (denoted with '???'s) and it made me remember I did see those before and edited them. And when I put “A” for “Loom” as a test just now, it did indicate a conflict for me right away, at least, which is good:

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I restarted the game after doing this (as a test), and like you, it doesn’t mention the conflict

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Oof… I recently went though checking hotkey stuff but, I didn’t bother checking the other sets. Only DE. Nice find.

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