Are you really considering Xolotl Warrior?
Also one of the 2 civs without Xbow and only civ without Xbow + HC. Anyway the tier list is subjective as you said.
Itâs subjective.
I was not going for how they are played on pro level but more about how I they generally feel like feel like for most of the players.
But the game has 45 civilisations, I barely played some of them while I played other many times.
My reasoning is that they are only âhalfâ missing blast furnace because of their UT and only half missing bracer because of their UU.
tbh. I literally forgot the second Bohemian UU.
They still have 2 UU, a regional building, and a regional unit.
Eagle Warrior.
I spend like 10 minutes making that list so not that much thought went into each of the 45 civilisations.
There is a link to the website where you can make on too.
Might update mine later.
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I donât think all civs need a 2nd UU, but I have a few ideas.
Aztecs: Coyote Runner being the UU, whereas the Jaguar Warrior can become a unique upgrade of double-handed swordsman, replacing the Champion.
Chinese: Either Flamethrower or Fire Lancer (although Fire Lancer can also become an East Asian regional unit if a new East Asian DLC with Jurchens, Tanguts, or Khitans is added).
Franks: St-Denis Paladin replacing the usual Paladin upgrade, having a charge attack (reference to Montjoie St-Denis)
By Slavs is meant the population of Russia. At Slavs there was a local cavalry, vigilantes even landless princes (yes, there were even such on Russ).
I would add to Slavs the most popular image - Cossacks. In fact, they are Slavs who have adopted the experience of nomadic Turkic peoples (Khazars, Polovtsians - russian-like name of cumans/kipchaks, Tatars, Mongols) and live according to the special laws of military democracy (choice among authoritative warriors Ataman). Cossacks appeared throughout the history of Russia, but in the late Middle Ages they proved to be very popular as the southern Russian principalities (Kiev, Chernigov and others) suffered from nomadic raids due to geographical reasons. And peasants, in order not to be robbed or enslaved, banded together in groups, usually led by a nobleman, and formed bandit groups.
Another alternative is âDvoryaninâ (nobleman) The nobles were of different types and tasks. Basically, they were those who were at the court of a prince, tsar or boyar. Nobles who could afford better armaments. Ideally, they could be either mounted archers, heavy cavalry, or have the same ability that was given to Immortals in the Greco-Persian Wars dlc, namely to switch between light cavalry and mounted archers
Regarding Kumans (they are called Polovtsians or Kipchaks, Kimaks in the Russian chronicle) I can say this. It is worth to address to the Russian chronicles, where we observe a constant connection of Russian princes and Cumans khans.
They can have mixed architecture of Eastern Europe with application of Yurts for a place of houses.
The elite of the Cumans due to interactions with Russian princes (through dynastic marriages, alliances and non-aggression treaties) gradually popularized Orthodoxy.
For me this is interesting and it would be nice to show these Orthodox Turkic nomads.
I would suggest Kimak as a unique unit. This is one of the Turkic tribes related to the Polovtsians. I would implement it as a mounted archer with lamellar armor. Its main feature that distinguishes it from the kipchak (shooting a lot of arrows) - the emphasis on the use of fire. Kimaks would be a great alternative to Kipchak, which would deal damage slowly but with an ignition effect (the unit takes gradual damage once per interval). They could add extra damage to buildings.
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Whatâs the difference to an Eagle Warrior?
Coyote Runners are also not that historical. Kinda made up for AoE3.
First off all that is a strange name.
Second both Paladin and Cavalier are inherently French units by name and design. It would be very strange if the Franks were the one civ that canât have them.
Iâd rather see more other other Paladins replaced.
Or you know just give units unique skins without making them unique units.
I think a lot of people want units to be unique because they want unique visuals not really because they are not happy with how the unit functions.
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Not quite certain about this statement. Iâve seen a reconstruction of it on Youtube.
How does a aztec warrior prepare for war? #shorts #aztec #history #reenactment - YouTube
Coyote-suit warriors are historical, but from looking at the AoE3 wiki, the role that it plays there is weird (and overlaps too heavily with the AoE2 Eagle Warrior as a cav substitute).
Other possible Aztec secondary UUs would be Otontin, Cuachiqueh, or Warrior Priests. Incidentally, the final form of the warrior priest who took 6 captives was a coyote suit.
But I really donât think that Jags should become a unique barracks upgrade. Really waters down what is a great UU choice and would be almost as odd as making Samurai a champion replacement. There is plenty of source material for regional skins to represent a fully upgraded Aztec infantryman who was not a member of an elite order.
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For the Aztecs Otomies could become UU from the castle (as they were the nobles and jaguar warriors were the highest rank open to commoners) and jaguar warriors could replace THS and champion in the barracks. But the question is what should be the difference between those two units
https://tiermaker.com/create/age-of-empires-2-definitive-edition-civilization-tier-list-15808040
Changed around some civs.
Basically the civs in D Tier are the ones that really should get something more unique.
The civs in C Tier could get something but they are kinda ok. Some are in need for a change for other reasons (I dislike the current Huns and Goths particularly).
The problem with adding something unique is that it should be something good right? No one wants a unit to be replaced by something objectively worse.
But many of the civs in D Tier are really good already.
We canât give Franks a unique Knight that is better or worse then the current one and if itâs the same strength then itâs kinda useless.
It was easier to add something to the Persians because they were weak before the patch.
The only real option is to give them something while taking something else but that is hard because people like the civs for their current characteristics.
Franks, Teutones, Celts, Britons, Saracens, Turks will be hard to change because of that.
I feel like Chinese, Japanese, Ethiopians, Malians, Italians, Magyars and Slavs will be easier to change and I have seen people call for a change.
âŠalso because the generic unit roster is Western European already, indeed.
Rename Paladin for all civs. Then Paladin will be the UU for Franks, much like Savar.
Rename the rest âHeavy cavalierâ?
Yeah. Initially I proposed this same name for the Euro-Asian steppe trio Paladin - Huns, Magyars and Cumans as a new regional variation like Winged Hussar. And I asked for a small stat twist obviously. Or else it would be just a reskin.
Cavalier is a French word.
Cavalier is an English word.
I mean, yes, it is also a French word. But in the English version of AoE2, the word cavalier is the English word cavalier, not the French one. Besides, thereâs nothing specifically French about its meaning, in either language.
âHeavy cavalierâ sounds super bland to me, though. I know there are lots of similarly bland unit names already, but I wouldnât want to add more of them.
Chevalier
Like, yea. But that would be the point - to make the unique penultimate upgrades sound cooler compared the rest.
Iâm not sure what you mean â âunique penultimateâ? But cavalier is the penultimate (i.e. second last) unit in the line.
That was some pretty bad grammar from me - oof.
That was to convey the meaning; the next unique upgrade to the penultimate upgrade.
Or, make the civ specific upgrade to cavalier stand out.
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Savar is for Persian.
Crusader Knight for Teutons maybe.
Paladin is for Franks and Burgundians.
Heavy Cavalier for Huns, Magyars, Cumans.
Now we are left with Celts, Spanish, Lithuanians and Byzantines.
They can share a unique paladin with the poles.Not sure what to call it tho.