So balance is just completely out the window I guess?

Age of Empires IV IV - Discussion
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Is having “Seasons” the idea that AOE devs will just completely buff a certain Civ/unit combo so that it’s the flavor of the season? It seems like actually striving for ‘balance’ is just completely thrown out the window now. There is really zero point playing this game if it’s just going to change every season to whatever the devs feel like buffing.

Now it’s camel archers and elephants. Every team game is swarmed with camel archers and elephants. Zero skill. You just age up and spam it. Guess it’s their time to shine this month?

All hope for an actual balanced game I guess is just totally gone.

Zero point playing anymore when you just overrun by ‘flavor of the month’ unit.

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It’s funny to me how each of these posts rants about something different being OP. So I guess everything is OP? The only thing people seem to agree on is that this season did siege dirty.

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Camel archers are worse than before as they got nerfed. Elephants got what 5% more HP late game than before? Hardly game breaking.

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5% isn’t too big of a deal, but it does scale up with the numerical value. These are units with a base health of about 780.

Also, I haven’t had a single team game without either camel archers or a delhi imp rush into sultan tower elephant mass. Many times I see both. It’s a very difficult thing to counter, and it’s very effective with little to no micro required.

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Definetly needs a nerf they are so strong and can shoot while moving makes them uncounterable.

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Every so often, in new seasons or patches, new broken combos are created for certain civs. This makes them popular, sometimes in an exaggerated way and often reduces the variety of picks.

Then, a patch comes along that reduces the broken combos a bit. If it reduces them appropriately, everything is normal, but if it does so too much, the civ becomes “useless”, until a new patch gives it another compensation bonus.

This has already happened in previous seasons, I think many of us remember:

  • China Nest of Bees: Ultra broken siege unit
  • The Rus Bounty: If you didn´t kill all the deers on the map, you’re gonna be rushed so hard into feudal.
  • Joan DArc OP: The first months of the dlc she was ultra-broken.
  • Zhu Xi “Zerg” spawns: Armies of 30 soldiers at 7 minutes.
  • Ottoman era: Full Great Bombard + Jannissaries combo, didn’t have any counter.

Some classic broken combos that still persist:

  • French Knights Rush in feudal (II)
  • English Longbow archers Rush in feudal (ii)
  • HRE men-at-arms Rush in fast castle (III)

SEASON 9 Changes:

  • China Downgrade: Chemistry still free, but doing near Nothing now, and NoB downgraded.
  • Abbasid Camel Archer Spawn: Only making one unit, OP, no counter.

Well, now we have the Abbasid Camel Spawn, which “resurrect” this civ, and now everyone wants to play Abbasid in any team.

Maybe in a future happens the same with other civs, who knows.

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I only dont agree with that.Great bombar is so expensive its hard to mass them.In team games its much easier tho.In 1v1 i never trained them and i only play Ottoman.