# Some DLC concepts with the same pattern as LotW and DotD

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**Created:** [June 17, 2021, 9:58pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/some-dlc-concepts-with-the-same-pattern-as-lotw-and-dotd/134371 "2021-06-17T21:58:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![Szaladon](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/szaladon/32/114743_2.png) [@Szaladon](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Szaladon)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 9:58pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/some-dlc-concepts-with-the-same-pattern-as-lotw-and-dotd/134371/1 "2021-06-17T21:58:01Z")

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Next DLCs with the exact same concept as LotW and DotD:

**Sultans of India**

_New civs:_

- Cholas/Tamils (South Asian)
- Pala/Bengals (South Asian)

_New campaigns_

- New Persian campaign (Mahmud Ghaznavi)
- Tamil campaign (Rajendra Chola)
- Pala campaign (Dharmapala)

**Might of the Mansas**

_New civs_

- Kanembu (Sahel African)
- Swahili/Somali (Sahel African)

_New campaigns:_

- New Turkish Campaign ( Mehmed the Conqueror or Suleiman the Magnificient)
- Kanem Bornu campaign (Idris Alooma)
- Somali/Swahili (To be honest, not sure, but the Adal Sultanate lead various wars against Ethiopia so this could be potentially something good for campaigns e.g. Badlay ibn Sa’ad ad-Din)

**Gifts from the Gods**

- Tlaxcaltecs (Mesoamerican)
- Chimu (Mesoamerican)

_New campaigns_

- Maya campaign (Pacal the Great)
- Tlaxcaltec campaign (Obvious, the other perspective from the Aztec campaign, similar to Burgundy within Joan of Arc)
- Rise of the Chimu empire (other options and more details here: [New civ concept: The Chimu](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/new-civ-concept-the-chimu/132184)

Those are just a few ideas. If you have better suggestions, feel free to critize.

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**Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 10:08pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/some-dlc-concepts-with-the-same-pattern-as-lotw-and-dotd/134371/2 "2021-06-17T22:08:39Z")

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I imagine Tlaxcala campaign in style like in LotW with Burgundians and Britons. Now you will see the point of view from Tlaxcalans perspective fighting alonside with Spanish against the Aztecs.

Tlaxcalans could speak nahuatl language, so there will be finally aztec language in game.

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**Author:** ![Darkillermon](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/darkillermon/32/56997_2.png) [@Darkillermon](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Darkillermon)\
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They could gift us this Gift from the Gods as they did with US in AOE 3

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**Author:** ![Szaladon](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/szaladon/32/114743_2.png) [@Szaladon](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Szaladon)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 10:10pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/some-dlc-concepts-with-the-same-pattern-as-lotw-and-dotd/134371/4 "2021-06-17T22:10:38Z")

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Would be nice. I’d be happy though already if they give us any new American civs.

Has been a while since we got one (8 years)

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**Author:** ![Darkillermon](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/darkillermon/32/56997_2.png) [@Darkillermon](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Darkillermon)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 10:11pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/some-dlc-concepts-with-the-same-pattern-as-lotw-and-dotd/134371/5 "2021-06-17T22:11:45Z")

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They could even rename it Gift from the Devs

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**Author:** ![Blegh04](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/blegh04/32/69916_2.png) [@Blegh04](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Blegh04)\
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The order in which I would like to have these would be  
Gift from the Gods  
Mansas and Sultans  
Might of the Maharajas

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**Author:** ![TungstenBoar](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/tungstenboar/32/173768_2.png) [@TungstenBoar](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/TungstenBoar)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 12:10am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/some-dlc-concepts-with-the-same-pattern-as-lotw-and-dotd/134371/7 "2021-06-18T00:10:55Z")

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I would actually rename them:

- The first one I would rename to “Sultans of India” mostly for the Bengal Sultanate
- The second one I would call “Traders of the Sahara” and while Alooma is the most widely known I
- The third one I think had an okay name, but I would rather call it “Empires from the New World”

I would honestly divide the African DLC in “Traders of the Sahara” for Nubians and Kannembu and something for an Eastern African civ DLC including Bantus and Somalis/Swahili

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**Author:** ![voidpointer131](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/voidpointer131/32/121998_2.png) [@voidpointer131](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/voidpointer131)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 1:44am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/some-dlc-concepts-with-the-same-pattern-as-lotw-and-dotd/134371/8 "2021-06-18T01:44:28Z")

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South american civs need to be separate from mesos.

Apart from that, I’m on the East Asia train because most people seem not to talk about this region when suggesting new expansions.

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**Author:** ![Mahazona](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/mahazona/32/213405_2.png) [@Mahazona](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Mahazona)\
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Maharaja is too similar to raja so people might get confused.

Ghaznavids would be good as a new civi with tibet for an dlc.other than this Id like to see venice swiss and finns(maybe) added.venice and swiss can be mercenary dlcs.

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**Author:** ![Szaladon](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/szaladon/32/114743_2.png) [@Szaladon](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Szaladon)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 6:35am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/some-dlc-concepts-with-the-same-pattern-as-lotw-and-dotd/134371/10 "2021-06-18T06:35:19Z")

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> [@TungstenBoar](#):
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> I would honestly divide the African DLC in “Traders of the Sahara” for Nubians and Kannembu and something for an Eastern African civ DLC including Bantus and Somalis/Swahili

Several ones would be definitely nice, but just one already for those suggested regions would be really nice.

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**Author:** ![Juggernaut8704](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/juggernaut8704/32/203886_2.png) [@Juggernaut8704](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Juggernaut8704)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 10:21am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/some-dlc-concepts-with-the-same-pattern-as-lotw-and-dotd/134371/11 "2021-06-18T10:21:50Z")

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> [@TungstenBoar](#):
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> I would rename to “Sultans of India” mostly for the Bengal Sultanate

But Palas were Mahayana Buddhists and Cholas were Shaivite Hindus. So I don’t see why they should be called sultans?

Might of the Maharajas (MotM) is a better name. It also fits the naming style of some other DLC names they have used RotR, DotD.

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**Author:** ![Juggernaut8704](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/juggernaut8704/32/203886_2.png) [@Juggernaut8704](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Juggernaut8704)\
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If we have only 9 more civs to go, then I like the idea given by Szaladon with a few minor changes.

**Sultans of Hindustan**  
Afghans (Central Asian 3)  
Bengalis (South Asian 2)  
Kannadas (South Asian 3)

Afghan Campaign based on Muhammad Ghori (Ghor Empire)  
Bengali Campaign based on Shamsuddin Ilyas Shah (Bengal Sultanate)  
Kannada Campaign based on Malik Amber (Deccan Sultanates)

**Lawgivers of Islam**  
Kanembus (African 3)  
Somalians (African 4)

Turkish Campaign based on Suleiman the Magnificent (Ottoman Empire)  
Kanembu Campaign based on Idris Alooma (Kanembu-Bornu Empire)  
Somali Campaign based on Badlay the Beast (Adal Sultanate)

**Gifts from the Gods**  
Tlaxalans (American 4)  
Araucanians (American 5)

Maya Campaign based on Kʼinich Janaab Pakal ( Palengue Maya City-State)  
Tlaxcalan Campaign based on Tlalhuicole (Tlaxcaltec)  
Aracucan Campaign based on Caupolican (Mapuche)

**Might of the Maharajas**  
Tamils (South Asian 4)  
Oriyas (South Asian 5)

Chinese Campaign based on Zhu Di (Ming Empire)  
Tamil Campaign based on Rajendra (Chola Empire)  
Oriya Campaign based on Kapilendra (Gajapati Empire)

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**Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 1:17pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/some-dlc-concepts-with-the-same-pattern-as-lotw-and-dotd/134371/13 "2021-06-18T13:17:28Z")

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I vote for Mehmet The Conqueror campaign or doing something similar to Hauteviles. Focusing on Ottoman dynasty altogether. Sultan Suleiman feels more suited for AOE3 timeline although the game picked fictional route.

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> [@Juggernaut8704](#):
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> Kannada Campaign based on Malik Amber (Deccan Sultanates)

I like this idea a lot its not everyday a slave foreigner gets to become the hero in a distant land.

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If you want Turkish campaign you need Serbian civ, battle of Kosovo 1389 would be an awesome scenario!

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**Author:** ![Szaladon](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/szaladon/32/114743_2.png) [@Szaladon](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Szaladon)\
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Don’t we want to take a break from (South) Eastern European civs? We got 4 lately. I could see Serbs either using Mediterranean or Eastern European architecture, both sets which got recently new civs. I think it’s time for something else.

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**Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 4:24pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/some-dlc-concepts-with-the-same-pattern-as-lotw-and-dotd/134371/17 "2021-06-18T16:24:46Z")

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Listen, after Dawn of Dukes i agree next two DLCs should be Asia and Africa (in whichever order), then back to Europe (in my opinion).  
And there wasn’t much (South) Eastern European civ in general, only ones being Bulgaria and Byzantia.  
However, like is said previously, If you want Turkish campaign you need Serbian civ.

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I like Euro civs. But Asian and African civilizations seem to be stronger in every way.

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debatable. by no means comprehensive but

Chinese  
Aztecs  
Mayans  
Franks  
Lithuanians  
Britons  
Vikings

These are probably the strongest civs in the game right now

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> [@srbnems](#):
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> However, like is said previously, If you want Turkish campaign you need Serbian civ

Slavs can represent serbia for a campaign.we dont need everybody from europe just for the sake of having.

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