# Some ideas for new maps

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Just some ideas for new maps, most are splits of already (but, in my opinion, poorly) represented regions.

# Mexico/Central America/Panama-Colombia:

- [Lake Texcoco/Tenochtitlan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Texcoco)
- [Oaxaca](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oaxaca)
- [Rio Bravo/Rio Grande](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rio_Grande)
- [Guatemala](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guatemala)
- [Chocó-Darién](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choc%C3%B3%E2%80%93Dari%C3%A9n_moist_forests) (Thank you Moozilla for the suggestion)
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  - Alternatively, [Chocó](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choc%C3%B3_Department) and [Darién](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dari%C3%A9n_Province) as separate maps

- [Lesser Antilles](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesser_Antilles)
- Maybe [Honduras](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honduras) as well?

# South America (mostly Brazil since that’s what I know better):

- Amazon split (the current map could be renamed to Amazon River or to [Manaus](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manaus))
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  - [Rio Branco](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rio_Branco,_Acre), could also be called [Acre](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acre_(state)))

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    - If they go with the Acre name, the name Rio Branco could go to a map based on [this river](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Branco_River)

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  - Amazon Delta/[Marajó](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maraj%C3%B3)

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    - Caquetá-Japurá (could be two maps, one called Caquetá and the other called Japurá

- [Tocantins](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tocantins)
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  - Alternatively, Bananl Island

- [Atacama](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atacama_Desert)
- [Cerrado](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerrado) (could be represented by at least two maps)
- [Caatinga](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caatinga) (could be represented by at least two maps)
- [Buenos Aires](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buenos_Aires_Province) (the province, not the city lol)
- [Tierra del Fogo](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tierra_del_Fuego_Province,_Argentina)
- [Chubut](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chubut_Province)
- [Cuyo](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuyo_(Argentina))
- [Pantanal](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantanal)
- Paranoá (based on the region of the modern [Federal District](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_District_(Brazil))

# Asia

- [Sakhalin](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakhalin) (could be represented by at least two maps)
- [Mesopotamia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesopotamia)
- Deccan split (I’d go with at least three of these, while keeping the current one):
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  - [Gujarat](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gujarat)

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  - [Tamil Nadu](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamil_Nadu)

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  - [Rajasthan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rajasthan)

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  - [Uttar Pradesh](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uttar_Pradesh)

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  - [Madhya Pradesh](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madhya_Pradesh)

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  - [Maharashtra](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maharashtra)

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  - [Karnataka](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karnataka)

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  - [Andhra Pradesh](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andhra_Pradesh)

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  - Depending on which are used the current map could keep its name.

- [Hainan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hainan)
- [Xinjiang](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang)
- [Sichuan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sichuan)
- [Yunnan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yunnan)
- [Heilongjiang](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heilongjiang)  
Kazakhstan (maybe divided by [regions](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regions_of_Kazakhstan)?)
- [Kyushu](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyushu)
- Shikoku
- [Altai Mountains](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altai_Mountains) (could also be called just “Altai”)

# Asia/Europe

- [Ural Mountains](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ural_Mountains) (I think that one might already be in the loading screen maps)
- [Caspian Sea](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caspian_Sea)
- [Sea of Marmara](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_of_Marmara)

The list ended up bigger than I expected.

**Edit:** had to edit because two words got censored  
**Edit 2:** added a few more suggestions  
**Edit 3:** more suggestions

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This is more just splits of existing areas rather than totally new zones.

A lot of the regions just need a rearrangement/renaming and a consistent style. They should really unify everything into a map like this:

 ![image](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/8/9/89386c992e2df3e836f7b9cfe3fe3451658abed5.jpeg)

Some of these I definitely agree on such as Chocó and Antilles.

 ![Antilles](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/4/5/45532025badee79da08b4a05872cc16f51b42918.png)

But others seem pretty redundant. We already have Mesopotamia (Fertile Crescent), and splitting Sakhalin in two is just silly. It’s not that big, is sparsely populated, and wasn’t even mapped until the 1800s. Overall, I’d like to see them finish filling in Asia something like this, and also adding some in the Americas.

 ![Asia Map Updated](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/7/5/7515900824e87609b76482c15a8ae78e0fc66556.jpeg)

After that they can move on to new stuff like Polynesia (I’ve got a few suggestions in the works for that).

 ![Hawaii](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/3/f/3f78145f960bcd974ca87effd9b6c8566a8e3e64.png)

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> [@M00Z1LLA](#):
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> This is more just splits of existing areas rather than totally new zones.

A lot of them are way too big to be represented by a single map like they are now, which is why I’m mostly suggesting splits. The variety of minor civs from South America is way too small for such a diverse region, and Zapotecs and Mayas don’t belong there, but the devs won’t remove the last two from South America anytime soon since they want every minor civ to appear in at least 5 maps.

And I think Asian people are also too diverse to be represented by only a few religious settlements, half of which are Indian.

Edit: it’s a bit incorrect to say half the holy sites are Indian now that they reworked Sufi and added Tengri, but there’s still little diversity with the holy sites.

And anyway, I think they can both add new maps to already explorer (but poorly represented, in my opinion) and add new regions, instead of adding just “some more” to America and Asia.

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Also, I compiled that list in the middle of the night, so I only listed stuff I already knew about or was willing to look up on such short notice. I probably wouldn’t be the best person to suggest polynesian maps.

Actually, Canada, Alaska and the Andea need a split as well. Imo at least.

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> [@M00Z1LLA](#):
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> ![Asia Map Updated](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/7/5/7515900824e87609b76482c15a8ae78e0fc66556.jpeg)

This map shows the official (present and future) Asian maps ???

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It’s not official. I think I remember seeing it before the Tengri Shrine and the Yamal map were introduced.

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Not official, just something I drew.

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Oh, I didn’t know you made that map yourself

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Ooh I love the idea of Siam, and more Chinese and central Asian maps. Beautifully done. Show of the southern African maps too!

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I should have tried compiling some possible African maps as well. I think we need a second African exp, focusing on South/Subsaharan Africa this time

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I did a rough map for that in this post:

[https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/san-khoisan-minor-faction-more-ranged-shock-infantry/199827?u=m00z1lla](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/san-khoisan-minor-faction-more-ranged-shock-infantry/199827?u=m00z1lla)

I think they could also move Savannah to the region to the south of the Congo instead of where it is now. It makes the ##### River region look too constricted where it is now.

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Changed the first post to point out a lot of my suggestions are map splits

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To do it properly they need to be willing to move and rename the maps to be more accurate and make room for new ones. For example, the Plymouth map doesn’t even contain Plymouth. Most of Canada is missing because of the distorted map and South America has a pretty odd selection of areas represented.

For native sites, only South America is in urgent need of new content. The addition of Tengri and Sufi rework fixed the worst of the problems. It would be nice if they made a [new home for war elephants](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/forest-monastery-a-home-for-the-war-elephant/209481) and added a Bedouin option for Africa and western Asia. Inuit could also spice up the north. A few others like Habsburgs need a rework for their units and techs.

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I’d also like to see Ainus and maybe Evenkis (the latter are the main reason why I suggested two maps for Sakhalin lol)

I’ve been suggesting Bedouins for a while as well

> [@M00Z1LLA](#):
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> To do it properly they need to be willing to move and rename the maps to be more accurate and make room for new ones.

I’d like that. Pampas Sierras isn’t even a Vanilla map and it’s still in the wrong place. lol

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I don’t think you’d need 2 Sakhalin maps for Ainu.

 ![image](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/1/6/16088c1b49fc7362f5d7c313fe16266e4ec416a4.jpeg)

According to this they had a presence in Hokkaido, Honshu, Kamchatka, Manchuria, and Sakhalin. If 5 is the minimum to justify a civ that does meet it.

Evenks with their formidable armour would also be cool, but they’re in such a small remote area that I’m not sure how they could be included.

I actually found an even crazier armoured warrior while looking into the Pacific. [Warriors from Kiribati](https://www.khanacademy.org/humanities/art-oceania/oceania-peoples-and-places/micronesia/a/kiribati-armor) were on a whole other level.

 ![image](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/2/e/2e02ddc231d442333e4bf71d44768399ccb3e12e.jpeg)

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Oh cool

That spear(?) reminds me vaguely of a japanese kanabou

 ![Nanhoku-cho_period_samurai_from__Military_Costumes_in_Old_Japan_,_1893](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/2/4/240f91035196953dffe7da0f5edc9bedde7b5a60.jpeg)

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There are wooden Samoan weapons that look more similar to the Japanese one.

![image](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/9/c/9cb01823c2f52771dce9d9188bd11ca707935dc4.png)

The ones from Kiribati are actually made of shark teeth.

![image](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/8/3/83c485bd7feeaa9e9e1d11653bd72d6982da27b7.jpeg)

Some even have multiple prongs.

 ![image](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/7/3/73cd8a24c7c0e4a1cae1f1a79f8ea340dc8070de.jpeg)

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Lake Texcoco should be renamed as Valley of Mexico, which is more accurate; naming that region as Tenochtitlan is like naming the Andes mountains as Cusco. Other recomendation for Mexico is Sierra Madre map.

In Central America, it is weird that there is no Petén Basin for Guatemala and Lake Nicaragua for Nicaragua.

In North AmericaI, I would like a Québec map and a Black Hills map.

In my opinion of main maps that you didn’t mention in South America: Llanos which is the main countryside region of Colombia and Venezuela. Also Antiplano which represents Bolivian part of Andes mountains. Misiones which represent the main region where Guaraní were evangelised by the Jesuits (modern Eastern Paraguay, Misiones province of Argentina and historic Misiones Orientales region of Brazil). Sechura which represents coastal desert region of central Peru. Lake Titicaca in the Peruvian-Bolivian border.

Thank to your idea of the split of the Amazon, I would suggest Ucayali River to be its own map (main tributary of Amazon river in Peru).

Buenos Aires is so big to be its own map, and most of the province is represented by Pampa map, there is a region named Ventania that it has hills and little mountains that can be split from Buenos Aires. Chubut as a map is weird, the province doesn’t have any importance unlike happens with Buenos Aires or Misiones to justify (in my opinion), also it hasn’t a biome that makes it different from Patagonia. I would say the same I said of Chubut to Tocatins but I know nothing of Brazilian geography.

For some reccomendation for Asian maps, I quote [this image](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/lets-build-a-world-map-of-aoe3/205281/12), which the main ones would be Pearl Delta, Fujian, Lake Baikal, Bukhara, Zagros, Moluccas, Siam and Philippines.

For Europe: Crimea, English Channel and Prussia.

For Africa at least divide the Congo Basin map with the addition of Congo Rainforest and Mayombe, and as new maps Cameroonian Highlands and Madagascar.

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@miller_21st I’ve been thinking of revamping my list, including your suggestions if you allow for it. lol

I also got someone to suggest better names for Indian maps, I’ll see if I can find help for Chinese maps as well.

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Obviously I allow to use my suggestions.

> [@RatcicleFan](#):
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> I also got someone to suggest better names for Indian maps, I’ll see if I can find help for Chinese maps as well.

Good luck! I wish that someone who knows about Chinese geography gives their opinion about Chinese maps.

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