# Speculation for a Possible Middle Eastern DLC in the Near Future **URL:** \ **Category:** II - Discussion\ **Created:** [September 17, 2026, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/speculation-for-a-possible-middle-eastern-dlc-in-the-near-future/289719 "2026-09-17T20:08:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![DynasticPlanet5](https://forums.ageofempires.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/e495f1/32.png) [@DynasticPlanet5](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/DynasticPlanet5)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2026, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/speculation-for-a-possible-middle-eastern-dlc-in-the-near-future/289719/162 "2026-09-22T12:56:40Z")
So we got civ lists we got the region units let’s make the civs together all you modders and artists and campaign makers let’s work together ---
**Author:** ![smiki5five](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/smiki5five/32/217730_2.png) [@smiki5five](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/smiki5five)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2026, 1:25pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/speculation-for-a-possible-middle-eastern-dlc-in-the-near-future/289719/163 "2026-09-22T13:25:47Z")
I hate this artificial pseudo-conservatism of the design. They’ll keep names of civs or even units unchanged in order to cater to nostalgia of returning players, but won’t even allow us to load an earlier patch if someone really wants to play an earlier version of the game. ---
**Author:** ![smiki5five](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/smiki5five/32/217730_2.png) [@smiki5five](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/smiki5five)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2026, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/speculation-for-a-possible-middle-eastern-dlc-in-the-near-future/289719/164 "2026-09-22T16:30:44Z")
Would “Mamluks Raider” and “Royal Mamluk Raider” sound distinct enough from the Mameluke? I’d still prefer to rename the OG unit though, either into “Ghazi” or “Jambiya Raider”. ---
**Author:** ![DynasticPlanet5](https://forums.ageofempires.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/e495f1/32.png) [@DynasticPlanet5](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/DynasticPlanet5)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2026, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/speculation-for-a-possible-middle-eastern-dlc-in-the-near-future/289719/165 "2026-09-22T16:31:48Z")
Call them Dervish since that would actually be a callback to the original Saracen name plan so it’s technically so OG it predates alpha builds and Jamibya could be for a civ where we can’t think of anything else ---
**Author:** ![smiki5five](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/smiki5five/32/217730_2.png) [@smiki5five](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/smiki5five)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2026, 4:39pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/speculation-for-a-possible-middle-eastern-dlc-in-the-near-future/289719/166 "2026-09-22T16:39:43Z")
TBH Dervish would’ve been even worse name than Mameluke for this unit. Dervishes were Sufi ascetics, some took fight but more like warrior monks. > **[Dervish](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dervish)** > > A dervish, darvesh, darwēsh, or darwīsh (Persian: درویش, romanized: Darwēš) is a Muslim who seeks salvation through ascetic practices and meditations. It can refer to an individual or to a member of a Sufi order (tariqah). Their focus is on the universal values of love and service, deserting the illusions of ego (nafs) to reach God. This is usually done by performing a lifestyle which decreases bodily function to a minimum in order to attain what would be called "esoteric kno For centuries, this ... I’d go with either Ghazi (if after the split the civ becomes Bedouin/Adnanite coded) or Jambiya Raider (if the civ becomes Yemeni/Qahtanite coded). ---
**Author:** ![DynasticPlanet5](https://forums.ageofempires.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/e495f1/32.png) [@DynasticPlanet5](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/DynasticPlanet5)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2026, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/speculation-for-a-possible-middle-eastern-dlc-in-the-near-future/289719/167 "2026-09-22T16:42:36Z")
The problem with Yemen being the Saracen is that it encompasses a very non generic Arabic faction and history involving the year of the elephant and the Jewish convert Himydar, and if Yemen takes aspects of Oman then it has some Persian influences from the Sawaran If there were a Yemen civ I would absolutely push for a true Axumites and the campaign is the year of the Elephant and Abraha wars! So this would be the battle elephant and camel civ… at least the one that still has knights ---
**Author:** ![cs-mark](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/cs-mark/32/213671_2.png) [@cs-mark](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/cs-mark)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2026, 6:21pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/speculation-for-a-possible-middle-eastern-dlc-in-the-near-future/289719/168 "2026-09-22T18:21:44Z")
Where did I read about this hint please? ---
**Author:** ![smiki5five](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/smiki5five/32/217730_2.png) [@smiki5five](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/smiki5five)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2026, 7:45pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/speculation-for-a-possible-middle-eastern-dlc-in-the-near-future/289719/169 "2026-09-22T19:45:22Z")
I’d probably prefer a separate Axumite civ for Abraha, he was basically an occupier in Yemen ☹ ---
**Author:** ![smiki5five](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/smiki5five/32/217730_2.png) [@smiki5five](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/smiki5five)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2026, 8:01pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/speculation-for-a-possible-middle-eastern-dlc-in-the-near-future/289719/170 "2026-09-22T20:01:16Z")
IMHO the best option for a Yemeni campaign would be either Queen Arwa, or the whole dynasty that culminated with her (the Sulayhids) [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/FEhqG0YG4fI/maxresdefault.jpg "Dark Side History: Arwa Al-Sulayhi (1067–1138), The Yemeni Saint Queen!") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEhqG0YG4fI) ---
**Author:** ![KHANATTILA](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/khanattila/32/30722_2.png) [@KHANATTILA](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/KHANATTILA)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2026, 8:39pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/speculation-for-a-possible-middle-eastern-dlc-in-the-near-future/289719/171 "2026-09-22T20:39:42Z")
Which future, exactly? ![immagine](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/2/6/26fa821a961f71ac2809b0a97a813ed7acc863f6.png) ---
**Author:** ![DynasticPlanet5](https://forums.ageofempires.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/e495f1/32.png) [@DynasticPlanet5](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/DynasticPlanet5)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2026, 8:51pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/speculation-for-a-possible-middle-eastern-dlc-in-the-near-future/289719/172 "2026-09-22T20:51:40Z")
When the dust settles a new era of civ crafters and modders can rise and make for the game and we can’t wait my turn in this rpg of life ---
**Author:** ![CountGriashnackh](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/countgriashnackh/32/178420_2.png) [@CountGriashnackh](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/CountGriashnackh)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2026, 9:57pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/speculation-for-a-possible-middle-eastern-dlc-in-the-near-future/289719/173 "2026-09-22T21:57:07Z")
AHH yes, everything is going to get worse for everyone now. I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s updates done to the game after this. ---
**Author:** ![WhiteMagick4](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/whitemagick4/32/29597_2.png) [@WhiteMagick4](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/WhiteMagick4)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2026, 4:31am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/speculation-for-a-possible-middle-eastern-dlc-in-the-near-future/289719/175 "2026-09-23T04:31:36Z")
It was on reddit. I can’t find the link now. ---
**Author:** ![Grandy02](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/grandy02/32/201751_2.png) [@Grandy02](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Grandy02)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2026, 2:22pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/speculation-for-a-possible-middle-eastern-dlc-in-the-near-future/289719/176 "2026-09-23T14:22:48Z")
> [@cs-mark](#): > > Where did I read about this hint please? Not sure whether WhiteMagick4 was referring to the same hints, but in the AoE3DE subforum, there is a discussion (see link below) about unused strings and models in the beta of The Baltic Powers, possibly future content that is still under development. The models (or at least their textures) were removed in the release version. > [@Tinfoil hat theory: Persia is coming](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/tinfoil-hat-theory-persia-is-coming/288905): > > Just for the sake of discussion, for those unaware, besides Irish revolution data (whether we will see it on the future for Brits or in the new War of the Three Kingdoms map) there were this strings on the Beta. \Murid\ \NAT Murid\ \NAT MERC Murid\ \Rifleman from Dagestan that is better against Light Cavalry and Light Infantry than Heavy Infantry. Benefits from Skill promotions th… ---
**Author:** ![smiki5five](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/smiki5five/32/217730_2.png) [@smiki5five](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/smiki5five)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2026, 3:33pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/speculation-for-a-possible-middle-eastern-dlc-in-the-near-future/289719/177 "2026-09-23T15:33:13Z")
I’d love to see more civs from Caucasus and Central Asia. ---
**Author:** ![DynasticPlanet5](https://forums.ageofempires.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/e495f1/32.png) [@DynasticPlanet5](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/DynasticPlanet5)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2026, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/speculation-for-a-possible-middle-eastern-dlc-in-the-near-future/289719/178 "2026-09-23T15:37:43Z")
Alans are the most both civ for that you can think of, and they get to be Roman Euro and North African civ too If the Genitour ever regionalizes they’d get that to go with steppe lancers mules churches Dromons and camels. Possibly Pastures ---
**Author:** ![Skadidesu](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/skadidesu/32/172243_2.png) [@Skadidesu](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Skadidesu)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2026, 3:43pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/speculation-for-a-possible-middle-eastern-dlc-in-the-near-future/289719/179 "2026-09-23T15:43:17Z")
> [@CountGriashnackh](#): > > Activision famously made it so they owned the rights to any mods or other content made for WC3 Reforged under their new ToS. Stupid question but is that not currently already the case? Basically all games with user generated content have the same ToS that gives the platform owners all rights when you upload it to their platform. Not sure how that will legally hold up in court but I don’t know of any famous case where that was tested. In some ways the developers need to do that to prevent overly aggressive copyright claims by users. Like for example if any new civ has any feature that a modded civ had before the mod creator could try to sue Microsoft. Or if they made a campaign with the same setting as a custom scenario. This whole thing becomes a legal nightmare when people start uploading things that they don’t have the rights for. ---
**Author:** ![Gaturro7777](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/gaturro7777/32/61694_2.png) [@Gaturro7777](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Gaturro7777)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2026, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/speculation-for-a-possible-middle-eastern-dlc-in-the-near-future/289719/180 "2026-09-23T20:27:16Z")
Well, now with activition I wouldn’t be surprised if we get chaos warrios as a playable civ or dwarfs ---
**Author:** ![CountGriashnackh](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/countgriashnackh/32/178420_2.png) [@CountGriashnackh](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/CountGriashnackh)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2026, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/speculation-for-a-possible-middle-eastern-dlc-in-the-near-future/289719/181 "2026-09-26T12:48:41Z")
There’s a different between IP rights and holding a patent for some kind of mechanic. Activision Blizzard owns Warcraft but they don’t own the mechanics in the mod that eventually became League of Legends since they didn’t have the rights to the mechanics of it. But with Warcraft 3 Reforged they made it so they would own the mechanics of any mod created by the modders. So they can have a potential hit like LoL. ---
**Author:** ![DynasticPlanet5](https://forums.ageofempires.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/e495f1/32.png) [@DynasticPlanet5](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/DynasticPlanet5)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2026, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/speculation-for-a-possible-middle-eastern-dlc-in-the-near-future/289719/182 "2026-09-26T13:04:18Z")
Yet somehow modders who make content like TriRem the makers of Chronicles when it was a mod and Cysion were mere modders/idea guys once upon a time. It would be in best interest to work with or alongside instead of just wholesale steal their brilliant ideas [Previous page](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/speculation-for-a-possible-middle-eastern-dlc-in-the-near-future/289719.md?page=8) [Next page](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/speculation-for-a-possible-middle-eastern-dlc-in-the-near-future/289719.md?page=10)