Stop gaslighting the community

Age of Empires III: DE III - Discussion
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Recently quite a few people try to frame it as “WE gave us so much and we are not grateful” or “we keep insulting the developers”.
Politically, I tend to think of these people as ignorant. Sincerely, I think of them as ##########. Because none of them would listen to counter arguments, but find a different time and place to repeat the same bs.

  1. Everyone here had paid WE already. Myself for example even bought all their products at full price to “support them”. Not anymore. We don’t owe them anything. We are not responsible for their business model. If they cannot monetize their work, their fault. If they cannot discover their own game’s unique selling point (which is plenty), their fault. If they miscalculated their budget and sales, and gave away too much costly work for free, their fault.
  2. This community had appreciated much more about what the developers had done and had reminded everyone if it, especially when the incompetent communication and management forgot what their own game is about. Including but not limited to: new revolutions and unit models they never showcased, community challenge screenshot showing none of them had opened the game in a month, outdated unit description (2005) in their event page about Mamelukes (when a Louvre staff reminded them of AOE3 even existed). Up till now, the “20 anniversary” link still uses a 2 year old article including information about the non-existent community challenge.
  3. Most of us have been very directly and explicitly targeting management in WE and MS. They don’t need your shielding. You didn’t ask the developers if they wanted to be fused with those people either.
  4. “People would still be unhappy anything you do”. Great. Then do anything and see. For example, let your developers fix one bug the community manager considers too difficult .
  5. At this point many of us don’t even ask for resume of support, let alone DLC. We want anyone from communication or management to come down from their thrones and APOLOGIZE. Yes. Apologize. “We. Are. Sorry.” To your players. To your developers. Not more PR bs. Not your [redacted] army. Not more excuses. Not “we lied to make you happy”. Not “we feel you”. You don’t.

I emphasize this again: NONE of the people at the communication and management cared more about this game more than a F2P player. They don’t know what their own game is about, and they never bothered to find out.

Their community managers had uttered all those gaslighting bs to us already. It didn’t work. We don’t need more parrots. Next time just come with a middle finger. That saves us time.

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idk, I’d like a final patch to fix some bugs and nerf Ottomans and Baja California.

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Yeah, I don’t want WE to say anything. I want action. Agreed on everything else.

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Very likely they won’t.

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Yep. I’m not expecting anything from them.

I’d rather they keep their apathy to themselves. An insincere apology isn’t going mend any fences.

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Well, it would be fun to imagine some dignified snob writing that when grinding their teeth.

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Just a quick addition:

People had been more than willing to engage with any official good will until they turned their back on us:

In fact, such interactions had been effectively killed for all communities.

From the backlash of delayed patches to the recent controversies around 3K, it could be observed WE had the habit of playing dead whenever there was negativity. And such behavior became more apparent when they had been doing poorer jobs overall, likely impacted by MS budgets.

I say this in the most friendly way possible and choose not to mention their massive ban of people simply questioning about the AOE3 DLC on all social media. Such tensions can be EASILY resolved if they show the tiniest good will. Yet they still refuse to do the bare minimum

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Man, I miss these good old times!

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