What should I do if Thor has overtaken (me)Loki in arsenal upgrades and is building mass jarls, but the hirdman has the same production speed as the jarl?
Fire giants obviously.
But Longhouses are cheaper then Great Halls so you can have more of them.
And in heroic age?
Yes, but this needs to be prepared for in advance. Simply put, to fight this, you need to know what it will be. And if Thor doesn’t take Freya, then it’s simply impossible to predict.
Maybe dilute them with berserkers?
Jokes aside, it depends on your classical age pick.
Enherjars should make up for the extra armory upgrade. Depending on the situation you may be able to finish him off with flaming weapons, but I think in this particular match up i lean towards rushing him with undermine.
Einherjar can kill Zeus’s hoplites with huskarls. Apparently there are no other options. And they said the Dwarven breastplate was a buff for Hirdmen. This unit has been broken since the game’s release.
II’ve run tests. With equal arsenal levels, he can kill jarls, but it’s difficult to do against Thor. And there’s also a backline with throwing axemen. Basically, you can’t fight him. You need to catch him from both sides, limit to limit. If you have to add troops, defeat is guaranteed. Or just use Heimdal and you have equal eco and Einherjar.
It’s more like trolls being rather useless in this match up. I don’t really like the rework they got in retold. Lifesteal was much better.
Keep in mind that thor also probably has a valk or two going with the jarls. This is the typical norse mirror game we’ve had since forever. Hirdman does make things better. There was a time when only bragi had a rather expensive upgrade that turned ulfsarks into counter cav.
Technically riding cav + einherjar should also do well. Particularly with age3 upgrades of njord.
I don’t get it. Are you suggesting we take Njord instead of Bragi or what?
It depends what Thor takes in age3, if they get there before you.
Because frost will counter your flaming weapons.