Despite the overuse of gold, I think the designs are fine. Except this one:
This is even more inaccurate now.
We could headcanon the original woad raider into some lower-class irregular that fits the time period because he has little armor.
But now with this overly ornate design and very specific helmet and shield pattern, it points to nothing but pre-Roman
In fact the elite skin could have made a good capture of “evolving”, not just being elite. The letis and the coustilier for example all get more “advanced” gear and they look cool.
So it would be a great opportunity to “correct” the woad raider by upgrading him into something resembling the gallowglass.
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As per the initial communication the elite woad raider was going to use the original skin and normal version was going to be a new version.
Where is the nude woad raider devs?
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korean turtle ships are another one that bothers me. could have given them sails, which would have been identifiably different, but still very recognizable as the turtle ship, and more historically accurate. instead they have some gold tiles. I don’t hate it, but really seems like a missed opportunity.
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Perfect unit for Chronicles, lol
I think you misunderstood the statement, like the longbowman they got a new elite skin and they also changed the original non-elite skin.
“Every elite unique unit now uses a different visual compared to its non-upgraded counterpart.”
“A few units have received a new non-upgraded visual”
They did change the non-upgraded version but the changes were minor enough for most to not notice.
They simply changed the colour/pattern of the paint, skin and the centre of the shield.
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Should have renamed the unit entirely honestly, woad raider is an ancient unit that belongs in the Chronicles DLC
Would have preferred something closer to this
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To be fair the kilt isn’t historically accurate either (it’s more relevant to the 17th century) but as ye olde tutorial is taken straight from Braveheart I’ll let that slide.
Maybe have the woad raider (renamed Galloglass or Galloglaigh) be relevant of the 5th century celtic invasions of Britannia (still more modern that the current model that is taken from the roman conquest of Britain) and the elite be from William Wallace’s time, like the unit from M2TW. Both carrying a big sword indeed.
The kilt is a 17th century invention, but tartan robes worn over the shoulder were around earlier and were later adapted into the Kilt
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The design of Karambit is the worst of all.
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"Sir this is a cheap flimsy weak infantry unit. what should we do to indicate it’s better than the regular version.
Oh, give it a ton of armor
[silently stares back]"
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If these pictures are to be believed (and they usually are) the woad raider could have been slightly reworked (mostly the shield becoming a small rectangle) and still be believable in a medieval setting. The civ would need to be renamed Picts though and split with Scots who could get a Gallowglass as UU.
If the 3k have to stay adding dark age civs would make them, Huns, Romans etc look less like a sore thumb for the game to just embrace that earlier part of history rather than feeling like a mistake. I know some may not like it and I have my reservations as well with the new DLC but you’ve gotta work with what you have…
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In that case we would have a skin that is based on something tol ancient and something which is too recent
Perfectly balanced
Personally, I like the new elite skins a lot.
There are two that bother me: Plume archers, Elite and non-Elite, lose their arrows stuck in the ground. Jaguar warriors non-Elite are all curved when the great Elite skin is not.
Korean and even Bengali Elite skins look great IMO but I agree that it’s too much, especially from a unit that’s too big and masses a lot.
The Burgundians Elite unit skin is pretty much the same but overweighted, they could use some banners or shields.
I don’t have an opinion about the Elite Ships yet.
I would like to see a visual upgrade on the units that upgrade for free when aged up like Sergeants and Flemish Militia, but maybe I’m asking too much.
Overall a great addition to the game.
The Woad Raider should really be a Gallowglass
The elite version could resemble the hero “Dafydd ap Gruffydd” maybe? Would that be closer?
The Welsh are a diferent thing
Closer maybe in context to the Axe/shield combo, but personally if we were transitioning into the Gallowglass aesthetic I’d honestly prefer an altered version of the William Wallace model.
If the elite and none elite looks very different its hard to figure out which is what.
Current scenarios that uses the woad raider as barbarian unit would also get messed up as well.
