The most far-reaching medieval battle ever was won by... HORSEMAN. Just buff it

The Hunnic invasions in Europe were around the years 350-400. Islam, which more or less started out as a Christian sect, dates to the mid-600’s.

Also, Turks and Mongols aren’t the same, like Slavs and Germans aren’t the same. You’re right that being Turk started out as a fluid identity though, anyone could become a Turk by joining a Turkic tribe in the Early Middle Ages. And even in the Early Modern Period, as long as you converted to Islam. The same goes for other peoples by the way: the Visigoths for example included many Roman deserters from all over the Empire. Identities became more fixed only with the advent of Nationalism in the modern age.

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Exactly, it took time to get the favour of the Huns to change from animistic religion (Tengri) to Islam.
That is exactly what I said.

You just repeating my points…

No Hapazard is right. The Huns were already gone from history before Islam ever appeared. Last notable mentions of them were around 500. There were other Turkic and Iranian nomads still living in Central Asia though including ancestors of present day Turks, but they had nothing to do with the Huns.

Note by the way, that modern states often claimed a non-existent/implausible link to the Huns in the 19th century. Hungary and Turkey claim it to some extent, but it’s baseless.

For cheap price you get mobility and can counter archers.

Mobility to do nothing… can counter 2-4 archers yea, in the first 30 seconds of feudal. Exciting possibilities.

Alp Arslan is such a dignified chap. A legend. The contrast with the Greeks/Crusaders is outright astonishing.

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Just. Watch. This.
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Humanity’s largest, most barbaric, criminal “sack + massacre” of a treasure-laden world heritage city?
Constantinople 1204 (by the Crusaders), Baghdad 1258 (by Mongols).