The New Ottoman

In the latest patch Ottoman got

  • A hussar replacement with a fast rate of attack

  • New grenadier that has less range resistance but has siege resistances and counters arty and does more to buildings.

  • And what we’ve all been wanting: a cheap unit this unit is a Pikeman at melee and crossbow at range (mostly for countering goons), unfortunately it can’t go into cover mode but it fills a gap that ottoman desperately needed.

  • Also they can retrain Nizam.

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They had some great changes, remains to be seen how balanced abus guns will be now.

I don’t think the grenadiers are that great from the little I’ve tried them. The new unit that counters all cav is amazing and exactly what was needed so you’re not forced to use abus vs goons and lose.

My favourite is the new hussar though, perfect for raiding. I also want to test the flight archery card.

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new combat cards means that jans and nizams get a total of +35% stats which will be very difficult to balance

the new abus is also looking very very dangerous

Is +35% stats in industrial that bad though, requires an age 4 card and have nothing in commerce and just a slightly better musk combat card in age 3? I mean brits can get +30% stats for their musk in fortress and then get royal guard taking that to +40%.

royal guard does cost 2k resources which is a lot more upfront investment then an age 4 shipments

jans also have higher base hp then other musks so the extra stats scales more. its like an extra 31 hp from the card where muskets get like 22

In addition, it also affects nizams, so you have an extremely tanky musk (I think 500hp maxed) that has multi against all infantry

Nizam are nerfed, no longer vs all Inf just heavy inf.

But you can retrain them after the mosque upgrade.

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I think they needed something though, jans felt bad late game and abus inefficient. They’re still going to get kited and countered by skirmishers very effectively, I don’t think this will make them like old svea caroleans that could just beat their counters easily.

Man, did yinz see that the Ottomans can send the infinite 9 Nizam card over and over, even when their population is maxed out. I had like 295 population, mainly from the 95 Nizams I had lol.

I think that is a bug, cause after counter infantry rifling they still gain x2 vs all infantry

that makes it kinda nuts cause combined that’s x4 vs heavy infantry and x2 vs all infantry

yeah thats a bug as well, the devs are about to get a lot of reports

considering that abus also got buffed hard and lategame outranges skirms its going to be very deathbally, the higher hp is just a larger mass tat can’t be easily approached

if people think jan-abus was deadly before , its only going to get stronger.

their melee cav are also faster with faster rof (so more snaring) and can get melee resist so they can hold heavy infantry armies down as well

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Think a significant buff is that the age 4 card that makes jans cheaper now also increases train speed by 40%.

Good move to nerf nizams but make them trainable.

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Dont forget the new abus gun which is a net buff on all fronts. All in all, it out dps French and German skirms on even pop and gets 22 range. I can’t ask for much more.

The HC cards is where I personally see the biggest buffs tho:

  • A whole new card for another +15% hp/attack on ALL infantry.

  • Team kippikulu also gives +10% melee resist on heavy cav.

  • Cav archer and azap train time and possible kiting boost card also acemi olgan got the train speed boosted.

  • More efficient artillery combat card and a buff to light artillery hitpoints.

Abus gun seems less of a buff and more of a reverting of a nerf.

As for the Azap/Cav archer card I don’t know if it actually works, other than on train time.

Description is a bit wierd. I think its about shortening the attack animation to help kiting, but it might just be attack speed, or even just the projectile speed. Eh.

Yeah I tried that but wasn’t sure if it did anything. It should make the attacks hit faster I think.

I’m liking the new age up for otto to get a second mosque.