# The Piechur and the Retainer are anti-everything units

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**Created:** [September 22, 2026, 11:35pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/the-piechur-and-the-retainer-are-anti-everything-units/289866 "2026-09-22T23:35:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![toaf](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/toaf/32/146888_2.png) [@toaf](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/toaf)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2026, 2:52am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/the-piechur-and-the-retainer-are-anti-everything-units/289866/15 "2026-09-24T02:52:30Z")

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> [@Soaring\_Crow](#):
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> Fully carded/upgraded Piechur being at 20 range is reasonable to keep it in line with other skirmishers. The _Piechota Wybraniecka_ could be nerfed to give a 10% damage boost instead of 20%.
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> I know they have counter-skirmisher multipliers but their actual multipliers against heavy infantry are the same (1.5x). That’s lower than the Landwehr multipliers, and those guys are meant to inflict higher base damage at the expense of less bonus damage.

Check this out: here you can compare the Piechur against other Skirmishers. The Piechur also benefits from the Counter-Infantry Rifles upgrade from the Arsenal, which gives it an additional 1× multiplier vs heavy infantry. [Unified Thread on Poland being op - #10 by toaf](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/unified-thread-on-poland-being-op/289903/10)

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