The problem with new DLC's and how to fix it

[MatM1996]

@TommoChocolate

I can imagine it, but if I take it literally, there’d be no reason to advance from Iron Age to Dark Age, so you’d just have AoE1. It would require major changes to the AoE2 ages, and most 1v1 games would probably end in the Bronze Age anyway.

Yes, it would have to be like Empire Earth where you go from the Bronze Age to the Dark Age but your AoE 1 military units become more “medievalizated” and so on until you reach the Renaissance which would be the 8th age… then AoE 3 would be 3 ages (Colonial, Imperialist, Industrial) and then AoE 5 would be the last 4 ages (Atomic, Modern, Nano and Space) xd…

@Skadidesu

Empire Earth 2 and 3 where very different games by different developers.

The real successor to Empire Earth was “Empires: Dawn of the Modern World”.
And maybe in some way “Rise and Fall: Civilisations at War” which was also made by Stainless Steel Studios.

The original Empire Earth was kind of what AoE1 was “supposed” to be.
Some parts of the AoE1 team had greater ambition so they made their own studio to develop Empire Earth.
And Empire Earth was very ambitious.
The two games they made after Empire Earth both had a smaller focus.

The other two Empire Earth games were very different and just not AoE like anymore.

@Skadidesu

There are many things that would complicate that but that doesn’t mean it’s impossible.

1. AoE1 units have different stats then AoE2 units.
2. Dark Age and Feudal Age would be a massive downgrade from Iron Age.
3. The list of civilisations that could be compatible with this mode is not that long (but that might be a good thing)
4. Technologies would have to be changed, you can’t research Ballistics twice and no one want’s to research 6 technologies in a row at the blacksmith.
5. The scale of buildings is very different between AoE1 and AoE2 so you can’t reuse assets from both games.
6. Natural resources expire half way thought the game.

All problems that can be solved but it would require a lot or redesigns.
This topic is definitely worth it’s own thread if people are actually interested in the idea.

Some possible was to solve those problems:

1. AoE1 unit upgrades have to be tuned down so Iron Age units don’t have so hight stats. AoE2 units must be buffed up to be an upgrade from AoE1 units.
2. Dark Age is replaced by Late Antiquity (all super units like Legionary or Centurion are moved to this age) and Feudal Age is reworked to allow to still train some AoE1 units. Some Castle Age and Imperial Age units might have to be moved down. Like Knight in Feudal, Cavalier in Castle and Paladin in Imperial Age.
3. Just have a small selection of civilisations for this mode, makes it easier to develop.
4. Technologies between Government centre and University need to be redistributed an spread out.
5. All the AoE1 buildings have to be remodelled to be AoE2 style.
6. There has to be technologies that reveal more natural resources like mines and fish. Wood just has to last longer.

It’s not a bad idea tbh. but it would require a lot of changes.

Of course I agree…

[Juggernaut8704]

@Acey1028

I’m sure most people haven’t even played all 42 civs.

What? You know the most vocal part of the community are the die hard fans who have been playing this game from 2 decades and they have played all civs many dozens of times. If they don’t cater to these old fans then who should they cater to? Those who buy the game, play a skirmish or two and then uninstall the game?
And by the way civs are not just for playing with, they are also for playing against.

[gagp2p]

New features = new and more bugs
They should let the game how it is, and open up real lan mode

[Juggernaut8704]

@gagp2p

open up real lan mode

That’s never gonna happen they don’t want their game to be cracked and used for offline lan.

[MSTVD]

Imagine a game a mode where you progress from aoe 1 stone age through aoe 2 imperial.

Well, back in HD there was a mod that added a very cool pirate type civ and with that, I think, it added the fifth “Golden Age” to the game. I never got to play it since it never received updates, but I was curious what that would entail
other than balance breaking gameplay, ofc

[gagp2p]

It’s already available and the Battleservers also has been already cracked/bypassed in the past. See AOE 1 DE and AOE 3 DE.