Just like everyone else, I do not like how the state of the DLC is either. The developers missed the opportunity to put the Three Kingdoms into Chronicles. Like what were they thinking? The Three Kingdoms don’t belong in AoE2 because that’s too anachronistic to be the case. The Three Kingdoms should be in Chronicles instead because that would make more sense since that game mode is set in antiquity (which is where Chronicles is also set during). Also, Tangurts should be a seperate civ from the Khitans and NOT be combined with them because it just doesn’t make sense to merge them into one. So, what’s going to need to happen is that the Three Kingdoms is moved to the Chronicles while the Jurchens and Khitans stay in the base game, and we see the Tangurts get added.
- Chronicles is essentially a different game by a different developer. They should be able to choose what belongs there and not Forgotten Empires.
- Making the same thread 10 times won’t make it more likely that the developers listen to us.
This user made the best suggestion:
What if : AOE2DE: Legend of Three Kingdoms
Don’t make them part of Chronicles, add a new spin off called “Legends” for all the less historical civilisations where every civ has heroes.
They don’t know what to do with the game.
They are doing experiments here and there. Ror, chronicles, V&V and now it’s basically V&V2.
Stop trying to add things that belong to aoe1; stop experimenting and adding stuff that could very well be a different game mode like the other dlcs or its own game for that matter. If they like aoe1 so much, just revive that game that was your past failure. If they don’t want to, then create a new game. It doesn’t make sense to add it to the base game.
RoR is just AoE1 being ported over to the new Engine.
Chronicles is basically it’s own game just using the AoE2 Engine too. It’s kind of “just” a payed mod.
Yes, that’s my point. They are adding stuff that, all in all, shouldn’t be here.
Maybe I’m alone in this but for me the Chronicles DLC had been the best thing added to the game for a while, having it in the base game doesn’t really hurt anyone does it?
I disagree, I think it should be there.
RoR made AoE1 playable.
Chronicles gave a nice new experience.
Why not? Especially Chronicles since it’s made by a different team so it doesn’t take away capacity from normal AoE content.
And it’s certainly a lot easier then to make a new AoE5 from scratch.
Yes, I said that. They are fine because they are in different modes. NOT in the base game. I wrote that:
oh ok sorry, then we agree that the 3 Kingdoms should be their own Spin Off.
Do you mean adding the Spartans, Athenians and Achaemenids to ranked? Or just that BfG is added to a bundle?
Not necessarily but it’s still really weird why the “DLC” (mod) exists at all. But it’s still significantly better than what they are doing with 3k.
I actually don’t like chronicles BfG that much, because I see what is happening now with 3k as a direct result of that, and it was a serious concern of mine at the time. But I will say, this whole 3k situation is making BfG look like a masterpiece by comparison.
In a perfect world I would wish neither BfG or 3k exists for this game (but maybe their own standalone game), but if they do have to be part of aoe2, please keep them separate like BfG currently is.
I meant as it is, having access to those Civs for custom games, having the visual assets available for the editor.
We’ve already seen some of the visual assets created for BFG used in AOK campaigns, I consider that a positive and why it would be a shame had it been a standalone game.
I’m not talking about ranked, that is not my interest. If people want the 3k civs out of ranked that is fine by me.
You have a tidy, nice menu for campaigns from AOE2DE, depicting several expansions and missions from across the globe. Suddenly, you read “China" being down there too and, excited and with curiosity, you head to that tab and select it. Then, “oh, wait… it’s looking really different and weird, totally off next to all other AOE2 campaign UIs!”
Short version: Three Kingdoms campaigns should be moved to the Chronicles game mode!
The only argument that is even somewhat against this that I’ve found somewhat persuasive is that 3K is obviously intended as fantastical approach on history whereas chronicles is a more faithful re-telling of history, so 3k doesn’t belong with chronicles and instead 3k should be moved to something that is similar to chronicles in all but theme. something like “legends”, where medieval history meets fantasy. something like king arthur.
In all other ways, I agree, 3K belongs in something chronicles-esque but I don’t think it’s thematically similar enough to actually belong in chronicles.
Also the Chinese civs wouldnt work well with most the Chronicles unit skins, so thats another reason to not just add them the way they are
Chronicle is not a garbage place to put anything you don’t like.
It’s a spin off content, focused on singleplayer narative.
TK civs were designed to be playable in ranked. Just by that fact, they are not fitting Chronicle guidelines.
Idk, even if 3K is indeed balanced for ranked, I think 3K also works as the “spin off focused on singleplayer narrative”
This!
People already suggested adding a new category called “Legends” that contain less historical civilisations with more mythical elements like heroes.
Chronicles is a contained experience made by a different developer which it’s own internal set of rules and concepts. Also the 3 Kingdoms are historically much closer to AoE2 then Chronicles. Chronicles is like 300 BC while AoE2 is 400 AD. 300 AD is much closer to 400 AD then 300 BC.
Also the 3 Kingdoms gameplay is much closer to AoE2 then to Chronicles.
Yes, Legends, that’s also what I thought when I posted my reply.
I agree about the overall idea that maybe the 3k civs are out of the box.
BUT PLEASE stop considering Chronicle as your trashbox for anything that is not fitting correctly.
The CaptureAge team is working hard to provide a very cool singleplayer narrative content on the antiquity, they deserve respect for that and not be labeled as “the place where off topic things goes”. That’s unfair for them.
I think the devs should create some custom ladders groups for ranked matches that will include only some specific timestamp civs.
We don’t need to move any civs anywhere, it’s just a matter of ranked filtering of official games for the Elo ratio what so ever. But if they do that, they should make multiple elo ratio based on those ladders. (personnaly I’m not a ranked player at all so I don’t really care about what is or isn’t playable in ranked, but I understand the reactions of peoples)
True, it’s fine as its own this rather than being cramped into AoE2DE.
If they’re planning for more Chronicles they better add Diadochi wars with Pyrrhus and other stuff afterwards.