# The Viking Sagas is available now! Discuss the DLC and newest patch here **URL:** \ **Category:** II - Discussion\ **Created:** [September 22, 2026, 5:19pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/the-viking-sagas-is-available-now-discuss-the-dlc-and-newest-patch-here/289854 "2026-09-22T17:19:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![SMUM15236](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/smum15236/32/29763_2.png) [@SMUM15236](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/SMUM15236)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2026, 11:06pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/the-viking-sagas-is-available-now-discuss-the-dlc-and-newest-patch-here/289854/21 "2026-09-22T23:06:22Z")
Just like Manipur Cavalry vs Farimba. At least the weaker one can be researched in Castle Age in both cases. ---
**Author:** ![Mahazona](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/mahazona/32/213405_2.png) [@Mahazona](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Mahazona)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2026, 12:44am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/the-viking-sagas-is-available-now-discuss-the-dlc-and-newest-patch-here/289854/22 "2026-09-23T00:44:06Z")
> [@Apocalypso4826](#): > > Actually, it makes sense. The Saxons are based on the Anglo-Saxons, not the continental Saxons. Some scenarios having them show up as mainland saxons and other not is not very consistent. > [@Crossil](#): > > I’m honestly not impressed by their design choices here. There should be a new topic made regarding this and saxons not being used when they are a better choice for some npcs. ---
**Author:** ![SMUM15236](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/smum15236/32/29763_2.png) [@SMUM15236](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/SMUM15236)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2026, 7:57am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/the-viking-sagas-is-available-now-discuss-the-dlc-and-newest-patch-here/289854/23 "2026-09-23T07:57:16Z")
Am I the only one who think VG is so strong that even if they didn’t generate gold, no one would complain that they were underpowered? ---
**Author:** ![NarrowBubbles54](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/narrowbubbles54/32/202706_2.png) [@NarrowBubbles54](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/NarrowBubbles54)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2026, 8:01am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/the-viking-sagas-is-available-now-discuss-the-dlc-and-newest-patch-here/289854/24 "2026-09-23T08:01:34Z")
> [@Balance Patch 22.09.2026 - Update 185872](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/balance-patch-22-09-2026-update-185872/289855/1): > > Teutons Tupi recently is ok, don’t need increase the UU cost more, they are now hard for use( first time need nerf but now no) Vietnamese did dev have some wrong about it? Cavalry archer ok , but fire lancer, it expensive and now too worst pay for that unit, ( weakest in area and no blast furnace, gambeson ? ) it is wrong Dev please reconsider it, it bad thing in this update. Should be have 20%hp for fire lancer, just nerf 1 is ok, while other area keep unchange bonus, keep it help them more diversity strategy. Teuton need to access to ring archer armor should they? While I sure next update vagarian will be nerf 🤣🤣🤣🤣, this time really thank for update Byzantine they now better after long term lack special for the UU. Viking need access to gambeson, And cheftain need take back funtion will take gold when killing the Monk , and monastery it happen in history. ---
**Author:** ![Skadidesu](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/skadidesu/32/172243_2.png) [@Skadidesu](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Skadidesu)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2026, 8:01am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/the-viking-sagas-is-available-now-discuss-the-dlc-and-newest-patch-here/289854/25 "2026-09-23T08:01:44Z")
They are not that cost efficient against most units if you look into it. They lose against the Milita Line, Archer Line and Knight Line unless they have a strong bonus like Verangian Verangians (saying that sound so stupid). Giving them the Gold generation is essentially an indirect Gold discount making them more cost efficient against Knights for example but it doesn’t remove their weaknesses. ---
**Author:** ![TommoChocolate](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/tommochocolate/32/197278_2.png) [@TommoChocolate](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/TommoChocolate)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2026, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/the-viking-sagas-is-available-now-discuss-the-dlc-and-newest-patch-here/289854/26 "2026-09-23T09:41:49Z")
> [@TheTowerDefender](#): > > I’m still glad that the anti-fun “gold-on-kill” mechanic was removed On the other hand, Varangian Guards generate gold. I assume they removed it due to overlap with that effect, and not because they think it’s anti-fun or a bad mechanic. ---
**Author:** ![polymath](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/polymath/32/207457_2.png) [@polymath](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/polymath)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2026, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/the-viking-sagas-is-available-now-discuss-the-dlc-and-newest-patch-here/289854/27 "2026-09-23T11:47:11Z")
Seem like the Saxons are playable only in one mission, but there are plenty of missions for Vikings. So, we can simply say that Vikings have a campaign, but Saxons still need one. ---
**Author:** ![DynasticPlanet5](https://forums.ageofempires.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/e495f1/32.png) [@DynasticPlanet5](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/DynasticPlanet5)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2026, 11:59am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/the-viking-sagas-is-available-now-discuss-the-dlc-and-newest-patch-here/289854/28 "2026-09-23T11:59:41Z")
IMHO a campaigns first job should be to show you the power of the civ in action. The Hun campaign sorta does by letting you raid with Tarkans and have situations where you need to get started fast without houses ---
**Author:** ![smiki5five](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/smiki5five/32/217730_2.png) [@smiki5five](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/smiki5five)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2026, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/the-viking-sagas-is-available-now-discuss-the-dlc-and-newest-patch-here/289854/29 "2026-09-23T12:41:28Z")
> [@polymath](#): > > Saxons are playable only in one mission Lol. Lmao even. I can excuse Chronicles civs getting only a single scenario (as was the case with Puru and Thracians), but this is pathetic. Not to mention the misleading campaign icon that displays the Saxon civ emblem. ---
**Author:** ![Akoskaaa10](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/akoskaaa10/32/29945_2.png) [@Akoskaaa10](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Akoskaaa10)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2026, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/the-viking-sagas-is-available-now-discuss-the-dlc-and-newest-patch-here/289854/30 "2026-09-23T13:12:57Z")
There are already some completed playthroughs on YouTube. Indeed, Saxons are playable only in one mission, the first mission of the third chapter. No one considers Turks having a campaign just because they’re playable in a Dracula mission, so yeah Saxons don’t have a campaign. ---
**Author:** ![UnAutreVoyage](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/unautrevoyage/32/158016_2.png) [@UnAutreVoyage](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/UnAutreVoyage)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2026, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/the-viking-sagas-is-available-now-discuss-the-dlc-and-newest-patch-here/289854/31 "2026-09-23T13:26:50Z")
Saxons only in one mission? That’s disappointing. I thought it would be 3 Vikings/3 Varangians, 2 Vikings/3 Danes, 1 Vikings/3 Saxons… EDIT: that’s sad and weird from the team. I thought they would have learned how important civ representation is in campaigns and solo. Looking at the Exiled prince on YouTube, it’s funny how it looks like a Viking campaign, a Varangian campaign, a Slav campaign or a Byzantine campaign all at once. ---
**Author:** ![MeteBaşkan](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/meteba%C5%9Fkan/32/204891_2.png) [@MeteBaşkan](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/MeteBa%C5%9Fkan)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2026, 1:40pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/the-viking-sagas-is-available-now-discuss-the-dlc-and-newest-patch-here/289854/32 "2026-09-23T13:40:29Z")
Why do the 3 newly arrived civs all have fully upgraded horse archers? Only the Varangians lack the thumb ring. Apart from that, everything—including the blacksmith upgrades—is fully maxed out. ---
**Author:** ![Mahazona](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/mahazona/32/213405_2.png) [@Mahazona](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Mahazona)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2026, 2:34pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/the-viking-sagas-is-available-now-discuss-the-dlc-and-newest-patch-here/289854/33 "2026-09-23T14:34:18Z")
> [@polymath](#): > > Seem like the Saxons are playable only in one mission, but there are plenty of missions for Vikings. So, we can simply say that Vikings have a campaign, but Saxons still need one. Interesting so a saxons campaign and celts split to two more civis might come. ---
**Author:** ![polymath](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/polymath/32/207457_2.png) [@polymath](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/polymath)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2026, 4:09pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/the-viking-sagas-is-available-now-discuss-the-dlc-and-newest-patch-here/289854/34 "2026-09-23T16:09:21Z")
> [@Mahazona](#): > > Interesting so a saxons campaign and celts split to two more civis might come. They would do it only if the Saxon campaign is locked if you don’t have Viking Sagas. Which makes sense, but will annoy a lot of people. ---
**Author:** ![smiki5five](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/smiki5five/32/217730_2.png) [@smiki5five](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/smiki5five)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2026, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/the-viking-sagas-is-available-now-discuss-the-dlc-and-newest-patch-here/289854/35 "2026-09-23T16:25:59Z")
> [@polymath](#): > > They would do it only if the Saxon campaign is locked if you don’t have Viking Sagas. Which makes sense, but will annoy a lot of people. Not really, they could allow to play Saxons there without giving access to them normally (as was the case when Prithviraj became a Gurjara campaign, all DE owners were able to play it) ---
**Author:** ![Crossil](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/crossil/32/213977_2.png) [@Crossil](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Crossil)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2026, 10:29pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/the-viking-sagas-is-available-now-discuss-the-dlc-and-newest-patch-here/289854/36 "2026-09-23T22:29:25Z")
So, Vikings are now at 12 scenario total, which is more than the previous record holders, Britons and Franks who had 10 scenarios total each. They should’ve had us play as Harold Godwinson for the last campaign, honestly. And they should’ve changed Ragnar and York to Danes, and Ironside to Varangians. it’s kinda ridiculous that Ragnar, Ivar the Boneless, Sigurd Snake-in-the-Eye, Hvitserk and Guthrum are Danish player-names, but their scenarios are still Vikings. And Bjorn Ironside is a Varangian player name, but the Ironside scenario is not Varangians. If they did all those changes, Saxons would’ve had a campaign, Varangians would be at 6 scenarios, Danes would be at 5 and Vikings would still be at an acceptable 6, even without the three scenarios in the last campaign. ---
**Author:** ![Tyranno13](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/tyranno13/32/127995_2.png) [@Tyranno13](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Tyranno13)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2026, 11:24pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/the-viking-sagas-is-available-now-discuss-the-dlc-and-newest-patch-here/289854/37 "2026-09-23T23:24:50Z")
> [@Crossil](#): > > which is more than the previous record holders, Britons and Franks who had 10 scenarios total each. _Macedonians laughing in the corner_ “Pathetic…” ---
**Author:** ![Vindy](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/vindy/32/185894_2.png) [@Vindy](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Vindy)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2026, 3:42am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/the-viking-sagas-is-available-now-discuss-the-dlc-and-newest-patch-here/289854/38 "2026-09-24T03:42:18Z")
Varangian Guard is a lot of fun. It’s like a knight, but on foot. Have only tried Varangians, but Danes look interesting too. The strong, flexible, but expensive niche is something I’ve been missing from infantry for a long time. Can’t wait to try the Danes, Varangian version of the unit is surprisingly well balanced. ---
**Author:** ![polymath](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/polymath/32/207457_2.png) [@polymath](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/polymath)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2026, 3:45am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/the-viking-sagas-is-available-now-discuss-the-dlc-and-newest-patch-here/289854/39 "2026-09-24T03:45:43Z")
> [@smiki5five](#): > > Not really, they could allow to play Saxons there without giving access to them normally (as was the case when Prithviraj became a Gurjara campaign, all DE owners were able to play it) Makes sense, I guess. Even though they _had_ to do _something_ about Prithviraj, since they removed Indians. And they don’t really have to add a Saxon campaign. They might, but don’t _have_ to. ---
**Author:** ![WhiteMagick4](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/whitemagick4/32/29597_2.png) [@WhiteMagick4](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/WhiteMagick4)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2026, 4:28am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/the-viking-sagas-is-available-now-discuss-the-dlc-and-newest-patch-here/289854/40 "2026-09-24T04:28:04Z")
The Jomsviking might need a nerf to its building damage. The Varangian Guards might need a reduction in their gold generation. [Previous page](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/the-viking-sagas-is-available-now-discuss-the-dlc-and-newest-patch-here/289854.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/the-viking-sagas-is-available-now-discuss-the-dlc-and-newest-patch-here/289854.md?page=3)