# Tips learning new civ (Mongols to Rus)

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**Category:** IV - Discussion\
**Created:** [December 15, 2021, 12:27am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/tips-learning-new-civ-mongols-to-rus/189646 "2021-12-15T00:27:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![MISTERSMELL](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/mistersmell/32/104192_2.png) [@MISTERSMELL](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/MISTERSMELL)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2021, 12:27am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/tips-learning-new-civ-mongols-to-rus/189646/1 "2021-12-15T00:27:12Z")

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I have been playing pretty much only Mongols since I got the game. Now I’m trying to learn Rus. I’m using the fast castle in to cav archers build order. I can do it kind of ok reaching castle by around 10 mins. I realise I could be faster. I keep losing almost every game since I switched civ. I reached over 1000 elo as Mongols and was pretty happy with that now I’ve gone down to low 900s.

Maybe the only reason I was up there was I was playing an OP civ??? Surely not???

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**Author:** ![Crawjalaxe8716](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/crawjalaxe8716/32/99203_2.png) [@Crawjalaxe8716](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Crawjalaxe8716)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2021, 12:33am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/tips-learning-new-civ-mongols-to-rus/189646/2 "2021-12-15T00:33:17Z")

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lol. I’d rather have royal knights in my base before the spearmen buff then play against Mongols every other game (rus being the other civ I face).