Trouble with Armenians

Age of Empires II: DE II - Discussion
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Especially late game in some closed maps where early rushes is impossible.

Fereters extra HP and one upgrade early sounds nice on paper, but it still useless and doesn’t change the fact that infantry still suck due to their slowness and cannot catch up to archers, hand cannoneers, and cavalry archers. Need me to mention Cataphracts, jaguar Warriors, and other stronger infantry civs such as Japanese and Dravidians (Wootz Steel, ouch)

Their cavalry is also useless, since there’s no Paladin and Hussar, and no final upgrade. I can’t bear the thought of getting decimated by professional Hindustani and Saracen camels, or even more pop-efficient cavalry units like Paladins (Franks and Teutons especially), Boyar, Savar, Konniks, War eles/Battle eles etc.

Apart from ignoring armor, composite bowmen’s are too situational to use, thanks to short range and slow fire rate and most importantly? No Thumb Ring. Cavalry archer without Parthian Tactics and no HCA? No thank you.

I played some matches, against a ###anese, Persian, , Hindustani, Mongol, and Mayan player, and these civs have better units than Armenians!

Any advice on playing Armenians better in the late game?

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#### Armenians bad, cuz no horses.

Deal with it. Btw Composite Bowmen are actually very strong. And Armenians are bottom tier yes but still have a few good matchups (mostly vs the slower civs). Their eco bonus is still solid, the UU is very good, in Castle Age they have a good tech tree.

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Look, I’m no technical guy. I am amazed at how you guys here know all the spects and comment about every single detail of the game. Me, I play by intuition, by feeling, that’s it. And I’m playing with every civ against every other civ and I’ve found the Armenians hard to win with. I cannot tell you why, but they aren’t strong enough, simply said.

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