# Two empty "unknown app" DLCs at SteamDB: the next 2026 DLCs? **URL:** \ **Category:** II - Discussion\ **Created:** [April 11, 2026, 11:00pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/two-empty-unknown-app-dlcs-at-steamdb-the-next-2026-dlcs/285301 "2026-04-11T23:00:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 44
**Author:** ![Ekarlath](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/ekarlath/32/146833_2.png) [@Ekarlath](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Ekarlath)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2026, 1:21am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/two-empty-unknown-app-dlcs-at-steamdb-the-next-2026-dlcs/285301/865 "2026-08-01T01:21:26Z")
By the way, Hearth Troop shooting javelin =\> ![viking_saga_newstuff_089_hearth_troop_readytoshoot](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/3/5/353369b2c02eb01d564912370886c40ee9820197.jpeg) ![viking_saga_newstuff_090_hearth_troop_shooting](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/8/1/81c5049908069f1409756a87baa3107c0e62c8c9.jpeg) ![viking_saga_newstuff_091_hearth_troop_shoot](https://forums.ageofempires.com/uploads/default/original/3X/b/3/b367dbac31910b97f23286e626e402a20b39239e.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Mahazona](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/mahazona/32/213405_2.png) [@Mahazona](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Mahazona)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2026, 1:32am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/two-empty-unknown-app-dlcs-at-steamdb-the-next-2026-dlcs/285301/866 "2026-08-01T01:32:26Z")
> [@SMUM15236](#): > > Let me get this straight, one of the civ is Vikings and another civs’ UU name is Jomviking? We have Teutons and Teutonic knights since Aok.Italians who are genoa have genoese crossbowman.If we ever get a swiss civi the uu would be swiss pikeman. Btw Jomsviking is a real historical soldier type. ---
**Author:** ![SMUM15236](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/smum15236/32/29763_2.png) [@SMUM15236](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/SMUM15236)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2026, 2:27am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/two-empty-unknown-app-dlcs-at-steamdb-the-next-2026-dlcs/285301/868 "2026-08-01T02:27:17Z")
> [@Mahazona](#): > > We have Teutons and Teutonic knights since Aok Both belongs to same civ. > [@Mahazona](#): > > Italians who are genoa have genoese crossbowman. Yeah, and? > [@Mahazona](#): > > If we ever get a swiss civi the uu would be swiss pikeman. Like Magyar Huszar. But Swiss are not getting Teutonic Pikeman, are they? > [@Mahazona](#): > > Btw Jomsviking is a real historical soldier type. So it should be Vikings UU. ---
**Author:** ![Mahazona](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/mahazona/32/213405_2.png) [@Mahazona](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Mahazona)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2026, 2:40am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/two-empty-unknown-app-dlcs-at-steamdb-the-next-2026-dlcs/285301/869 "2026-08-01T02:40:47Z")
> [@SMUM15236](#): > > So it should be Vikings UU. What does Vikings represent now when they are split? ---
**Author:** ![Velk413](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/velk413/32/157894_2.png) [@Velk413](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Velk413)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2026, 2:54am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/two-empty-unknown-app-dlcs-at-steamdb-the-next-2026-dlcs/285301/870 "2026-08-01T02:54:10Z")
Current Vikings civ represents Norway, while from what I can tell the Jomsvikings were associated more with…Denmark. ---
**Author:** ![Ekarlath](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/ekarlath/32/146833_2.png) [@Ekarlath](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Ekarlath)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2026, 4:07am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/two-empty-unknown-app-dlcs-at-steamdb-the-next-2026-dlcs/285301/871 "2026-08-01T04:07:54Z")
> [@SMUM15236](#): > > So it should be Vikings UU. > [@Velk413](#): > > Current Vikings civ represents Norway, while from what I can tell the Jomsvikings were associated more with…Denmark. That’s why Jomsviking are for the Danish. See the word Viking more like a profession rather than a people, it’s like “A Marines”. You got the US Marines, the UK Marines, that’s abit like that, Jomsviking are Viking from Jomsburg (or something like that). * * * And for the Varangian, they were a group of vikings too, I mean calling the Viking Viking is not stranger than Varangian the Varangian. ---
**Author:** ![SMUM15236](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/smum15236/32/29763_2.png) [@SMUM15236](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/SMUM15236)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2026, 4:57am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/two-empty-unknown-app-dlcs-at-steamdb-the-next-2026-dlcs/285301/872 "2026-08-01T04:57:19Z")
> [@Ekarlath](#): > > See the word Viking more like a profession rather than a people I know. Hence they should be renamed as Norwegians to avoid the confusion of ̶M̶a̶g̶y̶a̶r̶ ̶H̶u̶s̶z̶a̶r̶ ̶a̶s̶ ̶C̶u̶m̶a̶n̶s̶ ̶U̶U̶ Jomvikings as Danes UU. ---
**Author:** ![smiki5five](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/smiki5five/32/217730_2.png) [@smiki5five](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/smiki5five)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2026, 5:14am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/two-empty-unknown-app-dlcs-at-steamdb-the-next-2026-dlcs/285301/873 "2026-08-01T05:14:10Z")
> [@Ekarlath](#): > > I think they could be given to: Franks, Teutons, Britons, Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, Burgundian, Celts, Sicilian. > (…) > Maybe the Goth too. Goths didn’t have crossbows, neither did the Irish Celts iirc. I’d keep Sicilians with the Cav Archers, it’s one of the few elements that reminds you they are actually from a contact zone between Muslim, Greek, and Latin worlds, not from Normandy up north. Not a fan of adding them to the Scandinavian civs either, crossbows only became adopted there long after the Viking Age. > [@SMUM15236](#): > > I know. Hence they should be renamed as Norwegians to avoid the confusion of ̶M̶a̶g̶y̶a̶r̶ ̶H̶u̶s̶z̶a̶r̶ ̶a̶s̶ ̶C̶u̶m̶a̶n̶s̶ ̶U̶U̶ Jomvikings as Danes UU. Norse sounds better than Norwegians. ---
**Author:** ![smiki5five](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/smiki5five/32/217730_2.png) [@smiki5five](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/smiki5five)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2026, 5:53am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/two-empty-unknown-app-dlcs-at-steamdb-the-next-2026-dlcs/285301/874 "2026-08-01T05:53:55Z")
> [@Ekarlath](#): > > You have to give an “Edit Reason” to avoid the 403 now. They made a forum upgrade recently, the “likes” heart changed spot etc, by giving an edit reason (on the top left spot of the edit window) you avoid the 403 fobirden access error. Still doesn’t work. This forum is a mess. > [@403 error while trying to edit a post](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/403-error-while-trying-to-edit-a-post/288362): > > Ok, who even thought it’d be a good idea to require typing reasons for editing? The implementation is bugged, I can’t edit posts even if I provide twenty characters explanations for why I want to edit. ---
**Author:** ![Skadidesu](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/skadidesu/32/172243_2.png) [@Skadidesu](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Skadidesu)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2026, 6:02am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/two-empty-unknown-app-dlcs-at-steamdb-the-next-2026-dlcs/285301/875 "2026-08-01T06:02:49Z")
> [@Ekarlath](#): > > Would be redundant of The Last Chieftain settlement + not legit historically. I mean if you consider the Longhouse as a “Skali”, like a “noble house”, or a rich guy house, it’s not legit to be a ressource depot. My theory is purely based on the screenshots and not on history. Maybe it’s an aura building. But aura buildings wouldn’t really fit for civs like that. Maybe it’s something crazy like a building that generates free units. Basically a Feitoria for units instead of resources. > [@Ekarlath](#): > > However keep in mind that those Legionnaries only appeared after the Marian Reform, which is post 2nd Punic War. I feel like Chronicles will not just focus on the Punic Wars and it’s likely we will go all the way up to Caesar. The Punic Wars are popular with history nerds but everyone has heard about Caesar and Cleopatra. Though that would require at least 4 new civilisations (Romans, Carthaginians, Ptholemaians and Gauls/Celts). If they split the Romans into Republic and Empire again like they did in the mod they still need Legionaries at the end of the Republic too. > [@Mathusala0](#): > > Its confirmed to be a regional unit, so we know its accessible to the new 3 It doesn’t say that those regional units are necessarily accessible to all 3 of the new civs. The Mounted Crossbow makes no sense at all for Vikings, Danes and Varangians. The Varangian Guard might just be shared between Varangians and Byzantines. > [@Mathusala0](#): > > And more so the screenshot where they are clearly depicted surrounded by byzantine architecture. They are fighting Italians there though. ---
**Author:** ![PeakHornet46539](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/peakhornet46539/32/187877_2.png) [@PeakHornet46539](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/PeakHornet46539)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2026, 6:07am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/two-empty-unknown-app-dlcs-at-steamdb-the-next-2026-dlcs/285301/876 "2026-08-01T06:07:05Z")
[Mounted Crossbowmen (M2TW unit) - Total War Wiki](https://wiki.totalwar.com/w/Mounted_Crossbowmen_(M2TW_unit).html) The Danes used the mounted crossbowmen but they should also go for Franks, Teutons etc. ---
**Author:** ![smiki5five](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/smiki5five/32/217730_2.png) [@smiki5five](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/smiki5five)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2026, 6:11am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/two-empty-unknown-app-dlcs-at-steamdb-the-next-2026-dlcs/285301/877 "2026-08-01T06:11:31Z")
Yeah, I meant they wasn’t used in the Viking Era. On the other hand, Joan can train Throwing Axemen, so whatever. ---
**Author:** ![PeakHornet46539](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/peakhornet46539/32/187877_2.png) [@PeakHornet46539](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/PeakHornet46539)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2026, 6:12am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/two-empty-unknown-app-dlcs-at-steamdb-the-next-2026-dlcs/285301/878 "2026-08-01T06:12:31Z")
I am hoping the Chronicles goes in this way. Would make some sense given the limits of adding too many civilisations per DLC. The Rise of Rome: Republican Romans, Etruscans/Italiotes (both new building set), Carthaginians, Numidians (both new building set), Iberians —\> Italian consolidation and Punic War focussed. Dictators and Consuls: Seleucids, Gauls (new building set), Pontus, Parthians and Ptolemies (new building set) added - Focussed on conquests of Marius, Sulla, Pompey and Caesar (updates to the Republican Romans will come in too) ---
**Author:** ![TommoChocolate](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/tommochocolate/32/197278_2.png) [@TommoChocolate](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/TommoChocolate)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2026, 6:36am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/two-empty-unknown-app-dlcs-at-steamdb-the-next-2026-dlcs/285301/879 "2026-08-01T06:36:42Z")
> [@Mahazona](#): > > What does Vikings represent now when they are split? Vikings represent Vikings, while Danes and Varangians represent the fact that some manager decided this year’s expansion theme has to be Vikings even though AoE2 already has Vikings. ---
**Author:** ![PeakHornet46539](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/peakhornet46539/32/187877_2.png) [@PeakHornet46539](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/PeakHornet46539)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2026, 8:35am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/two-empty-unknown-app-dlcs-at-steamdb-the-next-2026-dlcs/285301/880 "2026-08-01T08:35:19Z")
Norse/Norwegians. Duh. ---
**Author:** ![Ekarlath](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/ekarlath/32/146833_2.png) [@Ekarlath](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Ekarlath)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2026, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/two-empty-unknown-app-dlcs-at-steamdb-the-next-2026-dlcs/285301/881 "2026-08-01T12:25:52Z")
> [@smiki5five](#): > > Goths didn’t have crossbows, neither did the Irish Celts iirc. Question is, did they use mounted archers with recurved bows ? If no, then they are candidate for mounted crossbow. ---
**Author:** ![Ekarlath](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/ekarlath/32/146833_2.png) [@Ekarlath](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Ekarlath)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2026, 12:27pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/two-empty-unknown-app-dlcs-at-steamdb-the-next-2026-dlcs/285301/882 "2026-08-01T12:27:55Z")
> [@Skadidesu](#): > > The Punic Wars are popular with history nerds but everyone has heard about Caesar and Cleopatra. No no no. Hannibnal Crossing the Alps, they Can’t miss that. Neither they can miss the massacre at the Battle of Cannae that nearly destroyed the Roman Empire. Yes the first punic war is abit nich, but the second punic war is History. They will cover the Punic War. ---
**Author:** ![Skadidesu](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/skadidesu/32/172243_2.png) [@Skadidesu](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Skadidesu)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2026, 1:23pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/two-empty-unknown-app-dlcs-at-steamdb-the-next-2026-dlcs/285301/883 "2026-08-01T13:23:54Z")
I’m not afraid that they won’t cover it. I just think they will go all the way to Caesar. The first Chronicles also had 3 campaigns. So maybe it could be: - The Pyrrhic Wars - Punic Wars - Gallic Wars Or something like that. New civs being Roman Republic, Carthage and Gauls. ---
**Author:** ![Ekarlath](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/ekarlath/32/146833_2.png) [@Ekarlath](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Ekarlath)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2026, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/two-empty-unknown-app-dlcs-at-steamdb-the-next-2026-dlcs/285301/884 "2026-08-01T14:43:43Z")
After abit of research, I’m thinking the Mounted Crossbowman will be spread on non viking civs. Many european groups used them during the late middleage, including French, Burgundian, Teutons, Italian, and others. It seems they’re designed to be anti-infantry, but I hope they also get a small anti cavalry bonus, as historically they were famous for countering armoured knights, thanks to the crossbow punch power. * * * On the other hand, the Varangian Guard could be a replacement for the Spearline. This idea is only based on the absence of spearline units on the screenshots / gif so far for the Danish and Varangian, but we all know it could be irrelevant and just design choices. We know they’re Shock-Infantry, generating gold, but their axes were historically used to deal with cavalry so I hope they’re getting a bonus. Especially if they replace the spearline. * * * For the Longships, I doubt they’re getting a full “pack/unpack” mechanics, even if that would be damn cool. I’m more thinking of them as a water version of a Cav-Archer, moving fast, shooting bursts, a raiding ship. Danish will probably have them one age earlier, others may have more power / sustainability based on their civ gameplay design. ---
**Author:** ![smiki5five](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/smiki5five/32/217730_2.png) [@smiki5five](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/smiki5five)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2026, 3:07pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/two-empty-unknown-app-dlcs-at-steamdb-the-next-2026-dlcs/285301/885 "2026-08-01T15:07:24Z")
My take looked like this: > Mounted Crossbowman: regional replacement for the Cavalry Archer, available for Italians, Franks, Teutons, Portuguese, Spanish, and Burgundians, as well as Andalusians. Slower speed (1.35) and rate of fire than Cavalry Archers, but more armor, 7 Pierce attack, and +2 attack bonus against Infantry. (The Heavy upgrade has 8 Pierce attack and +3 attack bonus.) [Previous page](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/two-empty-unknown-app-dlcs-at-steamdb-the-next-2026-dlcs/285301.md?page=43) [Next page](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/two-empty-unknown-app-dlcs-at-steamdb-the-next-2026-dlcs/285301.md?page=45)