You can add me as one being dissatisfied. I expected to play Cholas, Guptas or Mauyras for that matter - I mean you can’t ignore hundreds of Hindu Dynasties that ruled India. It’s an established fact.
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Exactly. What I don’t understand is how the West is fixated on the invasion of India and just completely ignores the Hindu culture which is present in India and just ignores the fact that Hindus were…part of India?
All that yoga/karma/food stuff didn’t come from nowhere.
Indians can’t be given a blank blanket of ‘karma/yoga/food’ and then go with this Sultanate…yeah I mean its a part of Indian history - so I get that par where the devs are coming from
Let’s make a faction of the Moorish Caliphate and make them represent Spain. What would the reaction be?
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Ironically the Preview video had a
Sikh person from the Relic team and even in Canada Sikhs are a considerable community,
and There is a huge majority of Microsoft employees that are Indian!
And even then the dev dont had a little bit of sensibility and showed absolute ignorance
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I argue that the popularity should focus on other Hindu dynasties as well that are equally deserving of attention. The Mughal Empire is vastly over-rated in my opinion - people don’t give credence to the empires of India - the Mauyrans/the Guptas etc. It’s a terrible choice in my opinion. I mean you can go with Khmer and Cambodia and hardly anyone in the West even knows about South-East Civilisations, but sure, we’re happy to take them on even when we know nothing about them. But should we choose a random Hindu empire - apparently it’s not ‘well known.’
Not saying anything, just expressing my opinion.
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While I am fairly confident that we’ll get more Indian civs (as can be seen already there is hints of adding new civs) the Delhi sultanate would not have been my choice. Mauryas/Guptas would be much bettter.
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Not ignorance, but I would put the point: India has 2000-3000 years of history and to equate it to a single dynasty that didn’t do much - when the Mauryan and Guptas were expanding in India, what about the Cholas for example?
Talk about diversity and all that, well then start adding these specific empires I mentioned. The Cholas are very diverse.
Oh and by the way.
Plz note I’m limiteed to three responses, but nothing can be done for AOE3. It was chosen as that.
In this one however, I would have wanted Cholas/Mauyrans/Guptas.
I am confident that the AOE team will add more Indian civs.
generic hindu Indian faction that would possibly fail to properly represent the “alien” ruling class.
Please understand that there were many Hindu Kingdoms ruling in India during the Medieval period. It is not as if they weren’t there. Hindusim has been the main religion of India for centuries - you can’t just dismiss it as if it never existed.
And in response to the Sultanate being an empire
- The Mauryans had the power to expand into Bactria
- Gupta ruled over a vast expanse of India
- Cholas spread Hindusim throughout South-East Asia which you can see the obvious influence in South-East Asia.
That is a huge contribution - alone.
But AOE has covered the Cholas in the past - so I am confident we will get it.
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Mughal Empire already Represents India in Aoe3 Unfortunately
IN AOE3 DE, THEY LITERALLY CHANGED THE OLD(YELLOW) INDIAN FLAG TO A GREEN ONE
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Delhi Sultanate makes perfect sense because it was an Empire during the medieval period.
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I hope so, coz in termsof listening , aoe3 dev team is quite hopeless they just focus on gimmicky stuff! and yeah included USA ignoring many other civ that neded update.
ANYWAYS!
As for aoe4 im Utterly dissatisfied with selection of Delhi Sultanate. these are probably the reason this game is not that famous in Indian subcontinent where the many of the growth potential lies.
If they dont add a good Native Indian Civ, I seriously wont consider playing aoe4 much
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Likewise, I would advise caution, we don’t know what other civs will be added. So I hope in the future that the devs do look at our feedback - lets see what happens.
It seems very logical really:
https://www.zum.de/whkmla/region/india/xdelhisult.html
Who else would be a better choice for the Deccan plateau during this period of time…
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Lol! India is wayyyyyyyy too complex to justify on the basis of a map only!
and if that the case ! leme show u another map! and from not a random website 
if that counts
On other hand! Delhi sultanate was just a random period of time when random rulers rules
That is a tiny dynasty and isn’t an empire. The game is age of Empires. They’re right to include the Delhi Sultanate as it was an Empire that encompassed most of the Deccan plateau.
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“that encompassed most of the Deccan plateau” was not true for very long. Oh so you know what?
Let’s have an Indian civ in AoE1, which rules entire (mainland) Asia and Middle East, representing the Empire of the pious Emperor Vikramaditya
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if thats not an empire ! Delhi sultanate is certainly not !
your definition of ‘tiny’ is quite huge.
Dang!
Vikramaditya / Mauryans / Guptas / Cholas are Golden ages . and 2 of them being considered golden age in world history
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Emperor Vikramadity was the original Holy Indian Emperor.
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The scales are so different!
U can look it at this way, while the other civs have much shorter life line, hence for them 1000 years might mean >50 percent off their timeline.
On other hand, for Older and ancient civs as India and others, a thousand years, might just mean 20 percent of their history,
So stereotyping such a civilization history , just on basis of a particular time period of 200-400 years of random patched kingdoms, ignoring ALLLL MAJOR civilization features… is simply …
I G N O R A N T !
Delhi Sultanate is Simply not a wise decision, and If they want to include it ! thoy shouldve better included others first and maybe then Delhi sultanate would make some sense! but starting directly with delhi Sultanate is ABSURD and shows lack of RESEARCH and ground work and effort.
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They get more money to be ‘diverse’
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I guess you should delete that. That is a controversial topic. I just got a notice for a similar topic yesterday.
Although i want more Indian civs in all the Age games (Except for 3), i have to back the devs decision, firstly, with the Age-games being Eurocentric, the fact that we even got Dehli Sultanate was a shocker. I was frankly expecting Persians and was a bit surprised and minorly disappointed when they announced the Sultanate, (keep in min that the game won’t have too many civs, so Persia is unlikely). The Dehli Sultanate also has two major qualities that overshadowed other potential civilizations. Number 1 being that it was a superpower of India, even once having conquered much of the subcontinent, Number 2 being that the devs can’t dip their toes into the pool of India, without being sucked inside. The Dehli Sultanate, being both an “outsider” and once ruling much of the subcontinent, doesn’t really overrepresent one part of India. It is true that you could think of them as representing the north, but not as much as including a “Rajput” civ. The reason you don’t want to overly represent a region is because you can’t add large scale enemies to that region and because other regions want to be represented. An example being the Aztecs in AoE2, the second the floodgates leading to the New World opened, the Incas were added since they weren’t represented and the community continues to want more American Civs.
But honestly, with the devs opening the floodgates to India, we might see an expansion eventually.
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