Now there is many new scythian assets and the Scythian appears two time in Attila campaign it’s time to upgrade this campaign.
Attila 1 : The Scourge of God
Scythian are played by the mongols, they have mongols building (east asian architectural set). Reskin their building as cuman buildings.
They have mangudaï and train cavalry archer.
Can they instead train : Scythian Horse Archer and Scythian Axe Cavalry.
Attila 3 : The Great Ride
There is a Scythians faction. When you give him 6 villagers she reward you with : 9 Mangudai, 1 Onager, and 3 Capped Rams.
Could instead reward you with : 1 Onager, and 3 Capped Rams and instead of the 9 Mangudai : 4 Elite Scythian Horse Archer and 5 Scythian Horse Archer.
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How is cuman buildings better than Chinese? If you really want to make them look apart just replace the buildings with the camp buildings from chronicles.
Btw I suggested these changes a while back.
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They need to add a Scythian civ
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In Chronicles maybe, but by the time of AOE2 they are long gone.
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Closest we’ll get is the Alans, who could also represent their parent group the Sarmatians, a descendant of the Scythians. They could probably represent the Scythians in Attila as well as the Alans themselves.
Theres still the Sarmatians and Alans
I think than the cuman castle is better because he look like an old fortification with a barbarian wooden building rebuild on the top
You’re right for the rest of the building the camp building of Chronicles will be good : Camp Barracks, Camp Stable, Camp Archery Range
For the watch tower they will be replaced by sea tower.
For the town center maybe by the Chief’s Yurt.
The sad thing is than we need more architectural set, western steppe or late antiquity/early middle age in this case.
Scythian civilization
For the scythian there were beaten by the Ostrogoths in the third century then the ostrogoth were beaten by the Huns. In the time of Attiila there were the last of them in Crimea, mostly with a sedentary life.
In Chronicles Scythian can be a good civilization because they already have their unique unit but in AoE2 the Alans will be a good proxy.
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Scythians are a bit of an approximation, what they wanted to have there are Sarmatians, a late antiquity Scythian offshot that bridges between them and Alans (although Alans were around much earlier along them). Romans and Byzantines had the bad habit to call everyone coming from the stepped Scythians and then Huns. Sarmatians too were disappearing by the 5th century anyway.
I agree that cuman architecture would fit more than Mongols. I recently uploaded a scenario about Huns coming to Europe where I tried to reconstruct a bit (with the little and confused info we have) what the situation could have been in the 4th century. There are Alans, Sarmatians, the arguably first known Bulgar ruler (?) moving to the Caucasus, the first known Slavic ruler and the last (?) king of the Bosporus among others. Pretty crazy moment in history.
As for the Attila campaign, there are other errors like Franks guarding Metz and Orleans in scenario 4 and being the grey neutral villages in the catalaunian fields. Orleans should be Alans eventually if they’re added, Metz I don’t know, maybe could stay Franks? The grey villages in scenario 5 should be Gaul I imagine, in the Devs intentions (while Franks already inhabited Gaul in the 5th century it was more the northern part of it and it doesn’t feel right to have them as a neutral civilian faction by that point), hence Celts.
They’re minor things anyway, they didn’t change Tariq yet to remove silly 8th century Italians/Spanish in Iberia and make those cities Romans. That would change the gameplay a bit actually.
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The Thracian and new Camp buildings from Chronicles might fit best here since that is what is used to represent them in Chronicles. AoE2 really needs a nomadic architecture set though.
You could even argue that the Persians should have their Chronicles appearance too.
Thracians and Macedonians could also be used to represent some of the towns and villages in the other Scenarios, also in the Goth campaign.
The last Scenario of the Attila campaign should really be updated to use other civs too in general, at least Italians instead of Britons. Even Georgians and Armenians would be a better fit then Franks and Teutones.
I wonder if Chronicles will ever get so far in the time line that it overlaps with AoE2 (besides 3 Kingdoms).
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If they had the Central Asian set, it would be fixed as well.
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Sorry that is unfortunately completely impossible!
I would rather want them to have the Achaemenid set then the Middle Eastern one in general honestly, but of course the Central Asian is the best fit.
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I know it is completely out of the timeline but still I think I would enjoy if some Chronicles units and buildings show up in the second Goths campaign, Razing Hellas.
Is ancient Greek worse then Renaissance Italian architecture for a 400 AD setting? I don’t think so.
i would looove a scythian civ in chronicles
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even “Middle Eastern” set overall is ugly ever since AOK era. Feudal Age is more close to ancient Egyptian set. After all they are successor of AOE1 Egyptian. Castle Age is late era set. Post Ottoman period in Turkey especially. Imperial Age is so ehhh.
Technically regions like Saudi Arabia and Iraq still has remnants of Archaemanids set all the way upto today.
Also Central Asian architecture is more reminiscent to modern day Iran+Central Asia, Thats why entire meme thread exist yet devs never gonna do this simple line of change.
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