War Elephants deserve a buff

[Parthnan]

@CheshireWig3203

But if Berbers have 56% winrate at 850 elo they don’t need buffs

Oh. yes. 56% WINRATE.
Berbers too OP
Case Closed. Deal Sealed. Berber Super OP.
Berber Ultra Super Duper Hyper OP.
Berber Ultra Deluxe Super Duper Bon Apetit Hyper Viper Diper Michelle Pfeiffer OP.

And therefore,
Genitours Super OP.
Genitours Ultra Deluxe Super Duper Bon Apetit Hyper Viper Diper Michelle Pfeiffer OP.

Camel Archer Super OP.
Camel Archer Ultra Deluxe Super Duper Bon Apetit Hyper Viper Diper Michelle Pfeiffer OP.

10% Faster Villagers Super OP.
10% Faster Villagers Ultra Deluxe Super Duper Bon Apetit Hyper Viper Diper Michelle Pfeiffer OP.

[MatCauthon3]

@CheshireWig3203

Against 2 american civs

and? clearly still have areas they excel at.

[CheshireWig3203]

No, they don’t

Killing Aztec and Incan eagles + raid (while Eagles and Paladins are excellent against living units and at raiding.

Viper put them on D-tier, the second worst tier and the most important factor was the training time (Tarkans, Konniks and Huskarls were in S-tier)

[MatCauthon3]

they beat mayan eagles too due to their lower attack delay.
either way. i’m fine with 5 food or 5 gold reduction. i’m not fine with your wholesale changes.

[Parthnan]

@JonOli12

Put one War Elephant against any other unit, other than a Monk, and the War Elephant wins

@JonOli12

Already the best UU in the game, and have the stats to price ratio to show for it.

@JonOli12

just win every direct engagement.

@JonOli12

They are well worth their full price.

@JonOli12

Halberdier and Pikeman damage must be increased against them, even more.

@Szebo210

15% speed buff would make war elpehants much more op

@FantaMorgana

I think that maybe pikes(Not halbs) would Need some more Bonus damage against them

@MatCauthon3

just how population efficient elite war elephants are.

@MatCauthon3

insane population efficiency.

@Nheltarion

They are super pop efficient

@Nheltarion

you can force fight

@Nheltarion

they are amazing

@Szebo210

Giving +15% speed would result in every third player picking persians

@Szebo210

they are strong

@Nheltarion

why do we have to buff a unit that perfectly what’s intended to do?

@Nheltarion

Persians do not need to do this already strong option

@TohoBuWaha

most population effective

@Szebo210

war elpehants would be broken

@Nheltarion

super pop efficient

@Nheltarion

they are strong as ■■■■

@Nheltarion

ever more strong option for Persians

@JonOli12

War Elephants, despite their massive cost, are the most cost-effective units in the game, by far.

@JonOli12

Already the best UU in the game, and have the stats to price ratio to show for it.

@JonOli12

they must also get more expensive,

@Nheltarion

I don’t talk like an entitled ■■■■■

@Nheltarion

you just look like a low elo player with a really small knowledge about how this game works

@Nheltarion

Still waiting to know your elo

@Nheltarion

at least i try to not look like a ■■■■■ every time

…

@JonOli12

Elite War Elephants are useless in 1v1, and not that great in Team games either. It is essentially a “make Monks” sign. Paladin + Kamandaran Crossbows are the only real option for Persians.

[FantaMorgana]

@CheshireWig3203

@Parthnan

There are some things we know for certain , even without data, such as

But if Berbers have 56% winrate at 850 elo they don’t need buffs.

Why so we even discuss anything, If only winrate Matters ? Just add/substract 5hp to/from their UU until they Hit 50%?!

[CheshireWig3203]

irony.

Only MatCauthon and JonOli12 thinks that

[Parthnan]

@JonOli12

Put one War Elephant against any other unit, other than a Monk, and the War Elephant wins

@JonOli12

Already the best UU in the game, and have the stats to price ratio to show for it.

@JonOli12

War Elephants, despite their massive cost, are the most cost-effective units in the game, by far.

And then we also have this

@JonOli12

Elite War Elephants are useless in 1v1, and not that great in Team games either. It is essentially a “make Monks” sign. Paladin + Kamandaran Crossbows are the only real option for Persians.

I rest my case

JonOli12: 'My name is JonOli12, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!’

Meanwhile:

@Nheltarion

I don’t talk like an entitled ■■■■■

@Nheltarion

tendency to ■■■■ on everyone elses opinion?

@Nheltarion

you just look like a low elo player with a really small knowledge about how this game works

@Nheltarion

Still waiting to know your elo

@Nheltarion

i asked your elo

@Nheltarion

at least i try to not look like a ■■■■■ every time

@JoJo9942

like he’s entitled to it.

@MatCauthon3

Get lost.

@JonOli12

He will never confess.

@thieftdp8498

not a lot of logic in your argument, juvenile ideas at best.

@thieftdp8498

I come here to read people’s comment telling you how stupid the ideas are.

[JonOli12]

@Parthnan

JonOli12: 'My name is JonOli12, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!’

Thanks for the introduction, but I do not remember recruiting such low quality, and unimaginative, staff.

House de Oliveira does have a reputation to maintain, after all!

[Nheltarion]

@Parthnan

Meanwhile

Do you ever take into consideration that the answers you get comes from the fact you have this lovely tendency to shit on everyone elses opinion?

You told me you have a knowledge of this game similar to the one of a pro. Since you cannot have that kind of knowledge thanks to watching streams, i asked your elo, question you dodged. I’m still waiting to know how you are supposed to have that knowledge dude

[JonOli12]

A question thou wilst never have answered!

He will never confess.

[Nheltarion]

Btw, should we quote everytime you said your opinion is the truth while everything anyone else said is wrong? Should we quote the fact you said that one opinions come from the fact that low elo player alwaya go for post imp, implying we are all low elo (which, in context with what you said, means sub 1k elo)?
Or do we have to quote everytime you lamentes personal attack while doing them yourself in first place? Do we have the quote the time you just plain invented stuff?

Parthnan, you are not exactly in a position where you hold some sort of moral high ground.

Edit: and btw, no matter the edit, you answer still was “ 20 characters”. You literally did the same thing you accused others to do, no edit would change that

[SilvAries3406]

I see it has drifted in a very mature, rational and pertinent discussion, isn’t it ?

[Parthnan]

@SilvAries3406

I see it has drifted in a very mature, rational and pertinent discussion

Some things need to be said and pointed out sometimes
Truth matters
doesn’t matter if it needs to be dug up.

And conflict is inevitable.

[JonOli12]

@Parthnan

Truth matters

@Parthnan

And conflict is inevitable.

Now we all see what you really are.

[Parthnan]

You see what about me?

This is what I see:

@Parthnan

Not only this

@AlightJewel1130

@JonOli12

I’m still waiting for your response.

but also

@JonOli12

War Elephants, despite their massive cost, are the most cost-effective units in the game, by far.

@JonOli12

War Elephants are useless in 1v1, and not that great in Team games either. It is essentially a “make Monks” sign. Paladin + Kamandaran Crossbows are the only real option for Persians.

…

@JonOli12

Get youself some Hugo Boss and a pale complexion before you say this

@JonOli12

never seen such a racist as Parthnan

[Parthnan]

@Parthnan

Your post was flagged by the community. Please see your messages.

I’m not sure why someone is flagging this post for being “off-topic”" when the quotes clearly begin with multiple significant War Elephant quotes

[SilvAries3406]

I would be as bold as to suggest that, while the quotes did came from the thread, the post in itself holds very little relevance toward the matter of the thread.

[anon642a]

You realize you need res to produce stuff right?