We have barely seen Huns in KOTD5 so far

Age of Empires II: DE II - Discussion
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So far throughout all of KOTD5 matches including the qualifiers Huns have been used only 6 times. Has power creep with Malay, Malians, Incas, and to a lesser extent Lithuanians gotten so bad that they aren’t seen much. Huns have been long considered a top arabia civs so why aren’t they being picked, do pros know something I don’t?

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I just that many other civs can now keep up against Huns.

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I don’t think Huns is strong currently. Early game (max 9 house = 225w - 100w and some work time. faster producing Scout isn’t big bonus also) and late game are very weak (only FU trash unit is Hussar. One of the worst trash army in the game), only strong stage is Castle Age and I think it isn’t extraordinary strong either.

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No houses is actually a nerf when walling so i think pros find it too fiddely for too little payoff

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but besides the losing supplies and the atheism rework Huns have remained unchanged since Africans Kingdoms, and Huns have been commonly picked in prior tournaments.

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CA has fallen out of meta recently. I suspect this is the case.
Also Huns knight play is not above average anymore due to too many good camel and better knight civs.

And this one is also a cause.

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Maybe make them more aggressive.

  • Reduce the wood punishment from -100 to -50. So they can build a Dock on Nomads now but the first Fishing Ship will still be late.
  • Get the Steppe Lancer line.
  • Mounted archers are 20% cheaper no matter in the Castle or Imperial Age.
  • Marauders also allows them to gain gold when they destroy enemy buildings, just like what they do in the campaign.
  • Atheism also allows Tarkans to kill Monks in one strike, and also allows them to gain extra gold when destroying enemy Monasteries and Wonders.

I would like to make them as aggressive as possible from the Castle Age to the early Imperial Age, even if they need to lose Stone Walls for that.

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I not advocating for any buff i’m only drawing attention to power creep in the meta caused by a few broken civs. Huns still have a decent winrate on the ladder and there are plenty of civs in a worst spot.

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Buff for Huns?! In which world do you live?

The civ needs at least 2 nerfs, they didn’t get any nerf since AOC and they are always top 10 if not even top 5.

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They got nerfed since AoC in the cav archer discount

Tbh I think them getting access to steppe lancees and maybe a larger discount for CA in castle age would be fine but its not necessary eithee

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The buff of the population bonus is prob too strong for Arabia

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This should be a thing for Tarkans by default (only against buildings)

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I haven’t seen Sicilians picked once for KOTD5 either. Are they due for another nerf?

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The no houses shtick is Hunnic DNA in AOE2.

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A bunch of things - civs like Malians, Portugese, Incas being stronger, the parallel ban/pick draft/inability to wall with houses. In this current Kotd-5 Arabia, 40% of the maps are supposed to have far wood, 5% extremely far wood, while the rest are wallable maps. So only on those 45% map generations, feudal friendly civs like Huns, Magyars, Bulgarians are solid. On the others castle age civs should do better.
Anyways I think, we are going to see more Huns as the tournament goes on and honestly I think Huns are much better than picks like Dravidians.

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If I had to buff Huns I would focus on the Tarkan I would also nerf their stable bonus to 15%.

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I nerf a team bonu that’s completely fine, they aren’t Britons on TGs ok?