What can be done to salvage AoE4?

it’s you comparing… not me.

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Yes, and i confirm and i repeat: they have talent and i said It about campaign and graphic. But you posted a stat with Number of players. These games can’t be comparse in these terms for the following reasons:

  1. Aoe franchise Is most important and there’s a much bigger fanbase;

  2. teams size are very different;

  3. the production costs are very different: Aoe4 h production’s costo are much bigger (if i remember well, for Spellforce3 they spent something like 2 milions of dollars)

Now, imagine Grimlore with all MS’s suport and with more money. This Is the sense of my statements.

ur words?

They made game which is DEAD by now. And never were alive.
thx, no, at least aoe4 somehow alive after 8 months.

fun fact

It’s super fun, that 90% of people learnt about Spellforce 3 cause Grubby && Jordan && other AOE streamers.

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AoE4 is living because have the name “Age of Empires” and many people proved It.

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I’m not arguing with that.
I’m arguing with: spelforest devs would do/did better.

what qualities Spellforce 3 has to be compared with aoe4?
Nothing…game dead… it’s like super ded.

Is it because: real-time strategy in the description?
SpellForce III Reforced is a unique mix of an epic RPG storyline blended with accessible real-time strategy elements

epic RPG storyline also in the description… so let’s compare it to Witcher III

I’m going to compare campaigns and graphic. Did you play It?

Of course, let’s not even talk about a new expansion…

Yes, but I mean a study with more experience, Relic exists since the 90s, while Grimlore was just born in 2013…

That’s true… PS:Titan Quest 2 didn’t have it eh… I’m going to take a look…



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Ive played AOE3 and spellforce 3 recently and in game they look know where near as good as AOE 4. Even the game control play on them aren’t close to AO4

Yes, there it makes all the sense in the world…

Or with the same Warcraft 3, which already had certain rpg touches…

The truth is that it looks great…I have the demo at Epic Games…

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Absolutely Amazing. I was waiting for Aoe4 for this Graphic.

Lots of graphics and 4 cats playing. There must be a reason.

It sold well. It’s useless to have 5.000/ 6.000 competitive players when you don’t have new players and the previous ones have gone, imho. We’ll see what developers are going to reserve to us for Gamescom

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I don’t think that is difficult to achieve because there are always the graphic options.

Beyond the graphics themselves, are the details.
For example 0-AD is not very technically demanding, but pays a lot of attention to detail.










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Of course, just like to be an “indie” is not bad at all…

Yes, the worst thing is that CoH 3 has the same engine and is 10 thousand times better than AoE 4…