What NOT to do when suggesting Civilizations

I don’t know if I said it at the time, but adding a mine that gives experience could help civilizations that depend a lot on TPs on the map that don’t have it, it was an excellent idea, it’s a shame that the developers didn’t add it at the end.


Unfortunately I didn’t say it for something historical. (I remembered wrong, sorry)


The main industry of Zacatecas is mining, mainly the extraction of silver, gold, mercury, iron, zinc, lead, bismuth, antimony, salt, copper, quartz, kaolin, onyx, quarry, cadmium and wollastonite. The state’s mineral riches were discovered shortly after the conquest, and some of the mines (and the most famous in Mexico) date back to 1546. The most productive are the silver mines of Alvarado.

This is the only thing I found, the mining of the time could have been something to expand, a shame that the only one who made maps is no longer part of the developer team.


The trend of the original game didn’t imply that we would get Native civs either. The civs from the WarChiefs were even all first introduced as minor civs, which implied that they would never be more prominent. So what was or wasn’t in the original game shouldn’t be seen as the eternal word of God.

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By original I mean AOE-3 and its 2 expansions, it is the original with respect to the definitive edition, not with respect to itself. Well, the system of revolutions was introduced in the first expansion and this is where sub-factions such as Mexico and the United States were included, which is where they really make sense.

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What do you mean “is not”? You mean present Canada?
I’m not for including Canada in this game, I’m just confused. lol

Yes, present day Canada’s culture is forced propaganda about not being American.

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this reads like American propaganda

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The “differences” shoved down our throats is a bunch of self righteous bs like “we are polite”, “healthcare”, and “Tim Hortons”.

Meanwhile the actual differences are that Americans can’t pronounce pronounce “roof” and think we say “aboot”.

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Canadians are literally a civilization in this game, they’re playable in the Battle of Queenston Heights Historical Battle.

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growing up without american exceptionalism and manifest destiny makes for a very different world view and perception by outsiders. I’m saying this as a well traveled Canadian who has also lived in the UK for several years. I also believe most Canadians more closely associate their identity with their province than with canada as a whole.

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Because Canada as a whole has no identity. The regional identities are all basically identical to the states they border. Saskatchewan/North Dakota, BC/Washington, Ontario/Michigan, etc. There’s essentially no cultural difference. Yes there’s the bonus of viewing some of America’s idiosyncrasies from a distance, but we still import all their culture war nonsense regardless.

I’m sorry you perceive it that way, it is not my experience at all.

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what not to do? Simple, once a civilization with different gameplay is added, don’t regret it later, because that’s what, it always happens, a different civilization is added, you don’t understand the gameplay of that civilization or you think it’s a strange civilization. , then you go on this forum or any other site to complain and cry and then nerf that civilization until it becomes almost useless, so instead of doing this take the time to appreciate a civilization regardless of if it is from a different region because this It’s something that many here try to deny, a new civilization is added, the people don’t understand the gameplay of that civilization, then they complain that it’s broken, and then they nerf it until it’s useless and then these people go back to the classic civs, if you want new ones civs please don’t do this, don’t go crying in the forums, on reddit or on discord complaining about not understanding a new civilization and then you’re here asking for another new civilization

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I think I understand what you want to say. That makes sense.

But why? (Unless the sorry is obligatory)

Not wanting to identify with a “patriotism” that is just being knee jerk anti-American is nothing to be sorry about. That’s not a national identity, that’s just toxic. Even the examples you give are just “not bad American jingoism”. Other claimed Canadianisms are things like healthcare and a basic social welfare. Basically every civilized country has that, and most of them do it much better than Canada. The only reason it even comes up is because it’s a jab at America for doing it worse. Being more polite is just a lie, the people can be just as viscous as the geese.

If you want to take a less toxic approach and look at what Canada is instead of isn’t, then the overwhelming majority is things shared with America.

Although I agree that the United States is not a country to admire, I think they should try not to divert the topic with such a controversial conversation.


Although I honestly think this topic should be closed. @eliteriflemann

I do hope you get a chance to see the world and maybe meet some rural Canadians and discover your own culture. I’ve found the people I relate to most are people from other sparsely populated countries built on 2 separate cultures ### ##### next door to wealthy neighbours that get all the attention. New Zealand, Paraguay, Portugal. You wouldn’t say they’re the same as their neighbours, would you?

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I am one and I’m well aware of the regional cultures. My issue is the fake national one. Nation states and cultures are not one and the same and there are plenty of cultures that are shared between two nations.

New Zealand doesn’t base their identity on being not Australian. It’s stuff like Middle Earth, fruit, fush and chups, and sheep ######### They’re also way smaller so regional identities are not prominent to the point of overriding an extremely weak national identity like in Canada.

Sorry for speaking the obvious, but a lot of countries’ sub-regions have their own regional identities. And a lot of countries (or people in said countries) base their identity or part of it on not being another country. Like the US with England. Or Brazil with Portugal and Argentina. It isn’t so crazy or evil to not be a big fan of a foreign country.

Seriously, Finns even go as far as joking about their own country not existing.

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For many countries it’s an element of their identity, but for Canada it’s the entire “identity”.

This guy explains it much better than I have:

Essentially, Canadians emulate, but also contribute to a broader American culture shared by both the US and Canada. And to get back to the topic at hand, he also touches on why Canada would be a terrible civ in this game (they were a purposely underdeveloped British resource colony).

Also, the way this guy pronounces “about” is not normal.

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