Stop bringing the topic back to this everywhere you go!
Its hard to stay calm around you.
Anyway lets grt back onto w real topic everyone else shall we?
I personally have never been a big fan of the OP video maker’s design philosophy. Call it off from my way to see the game but it doesn’t gel with me right and hence Mantis may be overrated and his only claim above other civ crafters is his ability to make some stat edits in-game for “proof of concept”
That is true only for non European civs or for everyone?
This is far easier to do when you have fun and unique units like elephants lancers or eagles. Even camels can be considered semi unique
I would love a second “forgotten” to add Nepal.
And btw, just to clarify, I am in Western Europe, am not South Asian, and would like more South Asian civs to be added than European ones.
I’m LatAm and would LOVE a Dravidian, Gurjaras and Hindustani split.
Well, you say that as if it were easy, it’s not
For everyone. I literally said “regardless of region”.
Not necessarily. For example Bohemians is really cool for me because of their different design with gunpowder Houfnice instead of Cavalry+Infantry+siege (excluding BBC) for other East European civs.
Enough of DLC for a time being, hope they give a break for a while
You realized everything you said, can also be said for Italians vs Portuguese or even worse Slavs vs Bulgarians, right? And similarly, if you can still feel the difference with those similarities, that’s proof that you can still make a Afghan/Pathan civ unique enough from Hindustanis, and a Punjabis civ unique enough from Gurjaras.
So what’s the problem with having Venetians?
The issue is that they’re already part of the Italians.
Under represented region should be the focus now instead of over represented regions. I see no problem Venetians in 2028 or 2030 or so.
Also unlike some people who literally threatens not to buy non-European DLC by saying "Europeans DLCs have more sells bcz most players are Europeans. Indians and African DLCs are (put censored word here) ", I’ll buy all DLCs as long as my wallet is rich.
So were sicilians and romans not so long ago so more could be a thing.Only bad part is it will add more to the medi buildings which is already too much.
With Italians and Portuguese I don’t agree. The only similarity special thing they have in common is that they both gave great gunpowder unit and that they are both great on watermaps… niether gunpowder units or watermaps are so common to say their gameplay is similar.
And did I say otherwise? All I said is that I’d like Venice in the game, others are saying that they shouldn’t be there because they would be “too similar” to italians (while 2 of the NEW indians civs are more similar than many eurocivs)
And then when I got tired of them I gave a fact… most of the playerbase is western and they would be more hyped for a culturally close Venice than any Indian civ… and they cannot handle it and calling me spammer when they are the one quoting me.
And before any other diversty internet “warriors” that cannot accept an opinion diferent of their own quotes me … I don’t have any problem with any civ outside of Europe… I’ll post my first comment again
Well, in that case I don’t agree with Hindustanis vs Gurjaras either.
I didn’t either. So our disagreement is only whether Venetians should be the next one or should wait for some years.
To my knowledge Italians were not a thing in middle ages, they’re an umbrella.
Also this game is clearly made from an European perspective being the middle ages an European concept going from the fall of Rome to the beginning of the colonisation of America.
And if you think there’s something wrong with this ask yourself if there would be something wrong with an African game having an African perspective.
That said I think the more civs the better, no matter where they come from, that should be equality in my book. Not judging the cover but the merit of a civ craft. It’s kinda close minded to disqualify a potential civ only because is European or too specific without addressing the merit of it imho.
I think an Oceanian civs DLC would be awesome, with Hawaiians, Maori and Tongans (the latter even had their own empire), and a new, war boat-based set of naval units for Oceanians and Native Americans.
And they squandered the idea of an elite bombard cannon by limiting it to one civ.
Meanwhile elephant units lancers and eagles desperately need more ways to be used
Romans weren’t covered by Italians, but by Byzantines.
I want to add that if you want to split Italians into city states you could perfectly split Dravidians two levels more
According to the Atilla & Alaric campaigns, the Romans were covered by Italians (poorly).