They banned mongols?
No cheese for me let’s go rus.
They banned rus?
Cheese for me let’s cheese with mongols.
They can’t ban them all right?
Every game I watched about mongols (including the one I played vs vortix) the tower rush push and cheese all-in was actually the most saddest thing to watch all tournament (because everyone was doing it).
If they went rus we all know what they did and correct me if I am wrong I didn’t see anyone beat rus unless it was a low level game.
I also learned on water maps mongols aren’t the cheesy ones, it’s deli.
Ouch, what a flaw, watching deli just destroy on mongolan heights was sad.
Main point: Some civs are completely too strong right now. Please fix and I hope you all looked at the tournament for help for next patch. Overall great tournament had fun watching the games that weren’t complete cheese.
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Main issue with mongols I think is there double production of units which is way too cheap. Same cost as a single unit only with a bit of stone added on. Rus HA are way too cheap. Devs need to do what they said and buff the other civs or nerf mongols and rus because I didn’t buy this game to only play against two civs every time I go in matchmaking
In my opinion it looks like this:
Rus pretty OP even when they get pushed and cheesed they are hardly beaten.
Mongols amazing overall and a specially on hybrid maps.
Delhi are the king of river maps with their fish boat archers.
HRE might be op on far maps with a few choke points getting to that palace of swabia in seconds (vortix 160 food imperial at 15 min anyone?)
There might be more stuff but these are the things that i think most of the people can agree on.
TheViper beat Lucifron’s Rus with Abbasid, was that a ‘low level game’?
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We learned that game is unbalanced.
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We learned that if you ban mongols, and play seven games without being able to play the same team, you HAVE to play Delhi . . .
Otherwise, you would just play Mongols.
Top 8 included Rus losing to Abbasids and Mongols losing to Delhi, top 16 included Rus losing to English, Rus losing to HRE (and there were a number of games that went either way between Rus and Mongols). Top 32 had a number of Rus or Mongol losses, but those brackets were almost always they better player winning rather than the better civ.
Not to say Mongols and Rus aren’t the best civs, but they weren’t undefeatable at the top level.
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Nah, Mongolian heights was in the map pool and Delhi is the best civ on that map (as seen by multiple mirrors plus Delhi beating Mongols on that map)
didn’t need some turnament to know that…
Other than that wth lucyfron kept doing cav archers against TheViper IN A TOURNAMENT ?! It’s not even cheese at this point. the guy (lucy) got 82% winrate right now and played like a birb there ! What does it say about the game i’m asking you people… -.-’
Since when does a victory with Abbasids against Rus (difficult victory by the GOAT of AoE), does it mean that Rus is not strong and Abbasids is not weak?
What about the finals? abbasid lost to Ross and the Holy Roman Empire。The two strongest people in the world both lost with Abasid
Wasn’t the tower rush a strat even in AOE2? At one point it was talked about a lot.
I leant that water maps are utterly boring to watch and play. The French mirror on Boulder Bay between Vortix and DeMuslim must be one of the best game in that tournament.
I was just commenting on the fact that OP said we learned that Rus and Mongols were civs that were cheese and didn’t lose any games that weren’t low level. I was just pointing out that while I agree Rus and Mongols are stronger than other civs, they weren’t undefeatable monsters.
Hybrid maps are often the most action packed maps, but bay is close to a pure water map that at some point turns into a pure land map with 1 person having fish so it’s not really the same. Island type maps have always had a smaller following in aoe and are pretty one-dimensional.
Hybrid maps are either fishing boat poking with Delhi or tower camping with Mongol, then it turns into demo contest later. It’s just as bad as pure water maps
This game sux should be taken down revamp