Where would civs without campaigns fit into future DLC?

Age of Empires II: DE II - Discussion
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Let’s say the future DLCs follow the same formula as LotW and DotD, which focuses on a specific region and gives us couple of new civs with their own campaigns, plus a campaign for a pre-existing civ. Where would the pre-existing civ’s campaigns fit into each one? Here are my ideas:

Chinese - A Chinese semi-split DLC (obviously) which a lot of people think we’ll be getting.

Japanese - Either a Pacifc focussed DLC which would lend way to a couple more South East Asian civs, or a generic “Forgotten Asian Empires” DLC which would give us one or two more civs from the China/India/Central Asia region that were forgotten about in previous DLC

Koreans - See Japanese

Magyars - A difficult one because aside from the Balkans I feel the rest of Europe is pretty much covered (and I think the playerbase are getting bored of more European civs). Where else in Europe would be suitable? I think they’d really be scraping the barrel for the likes of the Swiss, Venetians or Dutch. The only alternative is, given their roots, a DLC that focuses on steppe civs, but again, have we not already had enough steppe civs in AoE II?

Mayans - A DLC focused on the precolonial Americas (obviously)

Persians - The popular suggestion is in a Caucasus/West Asia focused DLC (Armenians/Georgians), which I would heartily approve of.

Romans - For the Romans, perhaps instead of a regional DLC, it could be a time period DLC, giving us a couple more civs from the late antiquity era, such as Nubians and Vandals

Slavs - The final split of the Slavs (which would, again, mostly be Balkan civs), plus a rename.

Turks - A few options. They too could fit in a Caucasus or Balkan themed DLC. Or, if there is another African DLC, a Suleiman the Magnificent campaign could be shoehorned in there as he extended the Ottoman Empire as far as the Horn of Africa

Vikings - See Magyars (mins the steppe civ part)

What about you, what are your thoughts?

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Add romanians as a civi change the slavs in the campaign to romanians.Rename the slavs to Rus and give them a new campaign and give the vikings a campaign.

Add Tibet and or Juchens as a civi give chinese koreans japanese new campaigns.

Add serbs give magyars a campaign.

Add Georgians give campaigns to persians and turks.

Add one or two meso civis and give mayans a campaign.

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Not bad ideas but post-DE, we’ve not been getting any more than 3 campaigns per DLC.

I think with the Japanese and Koreans they should come in separate DLCs to the Chinese-centric one.

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In general I think Europe is very well represented civ wise…but the dracula campaign is so weird using three civs. I assume you’re referring to the dracula campaign, though you didn’t mention it explicitly.

I get it for Babur or El Cid. As a showcase of a civ it’s weaker but narratively it makes sense. Dracula though has no reason to be three civs.

China won’t appreciate that and Microsoft won’t dare cross the CCP.

Georgians I think would complement Central Asian civs very well. Like how they added bulgarians and lithuanians when they added cumans and tatars.

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In general I think Europe is very well represented civ wise…but the dracula campaign is so weird using three civs. I assume you’re referring to the dracula campaign, though you didn’t mention it explicitly.

I agree that Europe is pretty much done and like I say, the only civs they could add where I wouldn’t feel they’d be scraping the barrel are Croats, Serbs and Vlachs/Romanians.

Which makes me wonder how they could fit campaigns for the Magyars, Slavs and Vikings all into separate DLC.

China won’t appreciate that and Microsoft won’t dare cross the CCP.

This is a common argument and I’m not sure if I agree with it. Would China really ban a game because it acknowledges an empire that existed about 1000 years ago? It didn’t harm EU4.

Georgians I think would complement Central Asian civs very well. Like how they added bulgarians and lithuanians when they added cumans and tatars.

Cental Asian would make most sense, but with a unique skin for their monastery to make them seem more Orthodox Christian and less Sunni Muslim. Bagrati Cathedral would fit in perfectly with that architecture set.