Japan, China, Korea… Now, from ‘Jurchen’ and ‘Kitan’, their stories have many amazing stories in history.
But there is no story of them in this game.
What’s the reason
It’s frustrating. They’re going to get compliments from gamers if they just create an East Asian campaign.
You are so right. Many of us have begged for such content.
forgot Mongols campaign?
The problem is that there’s only Mongol
East asians no campaigns
South east asians no proper trade cart
South asians no sails trade cart king merchant and UI
There was a golden opportunity — and someone wasted it on a dumb Three Kingdoms fantasy.
Byzantines have no campaign either (no, I won’t accept Bari)
This. Byzantines need something proper, too.
That’s Central Asia.
So much history for byzantines and we got Bari. It’s not a bad campaign, i like it and i enjoy it every time I replay the campaigns, but I keep asking myself why!?
I’d add a personal preference: A Charlemagne campaign for the Franks
Have the Chinese campaign during the An Lushan rebellion.
For the Byzantines I think Heraclius would work best though there are other obvious picks (Belisarius, Basil II…). For the Franks besides Charlemagne you could have it about Clovis and the early Merivingians conquering Gaul, or you could pick Philippe Auguste who kicked the English out over 200 years before Joan made it mainstream and also went on a crusade.
With only one mission in China (granted it’s very good but still only one). The others are unifying Mongolia then ravaging everything west (Persia then Eastern Europe)
Well obviously subjects like Song’s wars with Khitan and Jurchens, North South Dynasty, or Ming-Qing wars were not as pOPuLAR as the very mEDiEvaL Romance of Three Kingdoms, don’t sell in China, and do not connect seamlessly with the classic Attila campaign (because according to some WE grand historian, Three Kingdoms~Jin Dynasty~Xiongnu~Huns) so they don’t deserve any campaign.
/s
Probably the same “historian” that gave us khitanguts and xianwei
Do historical battle scenarios don’t count? They are larger/longer than normal scenarios of campaigns in general.
The Japanese have multiple scenarios devoted to their civilization: Kyoto from the Battles of the Conquerors campaign, Kurikara from Battles of the Forgotten, and Shimazu and Nobunaga from Victors and Vanquished. In Kurikara (co-op), both factions are playable as the Japanese. Doing another campaign for them will infact be overdoing it.
Also you cannot dismiss the Three Kingdoms campaigns entirely. It is still East Asia theme.
I feel they wanted to design the original Mongols to represent Golden Horde (closer to Europe) than actual Mongolia. The outfit and name of the unique unit shows it. The campaign also shifts attention too quickly from East to West.
I will strongly support a Mongols campaign only DLC with 15 scenarios in it like the Macedonians covering their expansion in detail. They totally deserve that representation.
However they are extremely isolated (only 3 civs involved for almost all of them) they repeat levels and are generally not great quality.
Oh and don’t cover Middle Ages East Asia, which is what people wanted.
I’d disagree that they’re of poor quality. Having played through all of them, I found each of the three civs to have enough unique or regional units to feel distinct. The abundance of hero units with special abilities also adds a lot of flavour. Yes, the final scenario is shared, but that’s actually a clever design choice. Experiencing the same battle from three different perspectives makes for a very interesting and cohesive narrative. It’s a rare and creative concept.
I agree that more Medieval campaigns would have been nice, and there’s still room to explore content for the Jurchens or Koreans. That said, it’s not fair to say East Asia has “no” campaigns. It actually has a reasonable number compared to other regions of Asia, certainly fewer than Europe, but still more than Africa or the Americas.
I don’t think it’s fair to claim you know what “people” want. Most players are gameplay-oriented and don’t focus as much on historical representation as some of us do.
I always find mind-blowing people would play this game without a minimal interest in history. But maybe I think too much from my point of view…
I think an actual campaign DLC with actual new campaigns for Chinese, Koreans and Japanese would make a lot of people happy.
V&V was unpopular because it just reused existing scenarios with little to no polish and not because it was a single player only DLC. I hope that is something that they realized and they don’t think campaign only DLC sell bad.
That DLC needs to introduce a few new assets, unlike V&V, like the long awaited Mounted Samurai skin. A new Chinese architecture set that doesn’t look Japanese would also be welcome.