It sucks cause you either frontload all in age2 or have to mentally prepare to hit numerous techs, cards, and age up options and have cows ready to sell to not get overwhelmed. While also doing tedious fields, MM renewal, cow rebuying etc. Most of us would rather plop 2 factories for like a bit less eco and then get on with it.
So much DE stuff could be streanlined now tbh
You need to calculate villager seconds. If A is 15% more expensive than B then A should have both 15% more hp and 15% more attack to be balanced. Neft has 15% more hp and cost 15% more than euro skirm, but doesnât have 15% more attack instead it has less attack, it also means it needs 6 shots to kill a musk, instead of 5, which is like 20% worse. Same thing with arquebusier
Probably lion heart lost to it. Mathematically it is actually quite weak. But in general lion heart doesnât like african or native american civs every time he lose to them he cries about it, and also probably because those civs cannot revolt xD
I was guestimating vs since coin isnroughly 2/3 of food but ethopias boosts food 20% early and then coin is wellâŠlets say better than avg.
You use vet stats for that calc? Cause pretty sure they kill vet musk the same. Ig if age2 sure but then why bother sending the card to begin with tbh
Anyways
Age3 its functionally the same attack for enough hp to take 2 more shots from skirms, musk, or extra huss swing. These are pretty solid
Hp is often preferred on skirms anyways (see cass v voltigeur ancient threads) so i dunno how this is a refute that its probbaly pretty reasonably costed and that its issue stems from ackward upgrades moreso than being bad
A bad light infantry is a jungle bow. These things ars solid for what they are
Why? because you can have solid skirms with Counter Infantry Rifling at the start of the game with ports age-up
there is a new OP build after every time it gets nerfed and now it was the red sea wagon thing but BIg Benny and Abun nerfs might have finally hit a proper nerf that should have been long ago
Fair, but generally its not a scenario youâd see, especially as the shadowtech for age3 warcamp african units is split and you still need to invest for full vet.
Yet another tedious mental note to juggle mid match
just stay age2 with CIR skirm and cav caracole goon lol
Isnât that like the definition of balanced? Fairly even base stats tradeoff, meeting in the middle for the cost (+5% -5%). Also itâs 17% hp if you round properly.
Yeah, id agree neftenya are solid skirms. Thats not my issue. Its to keep them upgraded and scaling is a PIA and often far more work or space to have a well rounded game. Hence my proposal thats its not the raw stats of neftenya thats not good, but the way the civ operates especially deckwise is awkward and often restricting outside of all ins or treaty
Yesterday I beat a top 10 player who was playing Ethiopia. I rushed with Malta bow/pike while he was trying to ff. I basically couldnât believe I managed that.
I think the lack of age 2 skirms combined with the difficulty of fast-aging is a bit awkward. The fast age tech and mm need a resource thatâs very tight early on too.
Bro its clear this community doesnt care about the ethopian civ. You are 100% right. As I go from discussion to discussion I see the same 3 or 4 guys commenting togther refuting any arguments for not nerfing ethopia. They think it deserved the nerfs despite the low win rate and all the evidence that shows it was over nerfed thanks to people like lion heart who spcfically advocated for removing batch abun. Which he shouldnt have done. Not mention it was a pointless nerf to begin with. Id suggest stop using the civ because people in the age 3 community want to carry out their own personal agendas despite object evidence showing otherwise. What ive noticed in the age 3 community is that no one advocates for nerfs for their prefered civ. Its always someone else who needs the nerf.
ethiopia is op in 3v3/4v4 team games. Abun economy (even after nerf) and the fact they can make up to 18 conquistadors age 2 that can be healed by abun, and with area damage, makes them extremely powerful. These are by far the best age 2 goon, killing vills, infantry and whatever u throw at them very fast, and they even have the mobility to run away and go bother somewhere else. Whoever complains about ethiopia nerfs doesnât know anything about the civ.
It is the same. 150 hp musk, 15 attack skirm, need 5 shots. 180 hp vet musk, 18 attack vet skirm, 5 shots. Neftenya 14,attack so they need one more shot.
How? You know math? Hp is 117%, 112% cost actually it is 115%, attack is 92%. Would be balanced if neft is 4% more expensive but in reality it is 15%
Where are those stats from? Both aoe3homecity and Companion App say itâs 15 so the same as skirms
There was a recent patch changed base attack from 15 to 14 i remember reading the patch notes clearly
Companion app anf homecity use the same source, can be outdated
That patch was in august last year according to the wiki
Yes. It has been 14 for some time
