# Will Saxons get the Huskarl? **URL:** \ **Category:** II - Discussion\ **Created:** [July 31, 2026, 3:33am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/will-saxons-get-the-huskarl/288307 "2026-07-31T03:33:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![smiki5five](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/smiki5five/32/217730_2.png) [@smiki5five](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/smiki5five)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2026, 3:33am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/will-saxons-get-the-huskarl/288307/1 "2026-07-31T03:33:12Z")
I think the Huskarl could be either shared between Goths and Saxons as a Barrack unit (Goths can already train them there after researching their UT) or used as a name for a new unit belonging to the Saxons, while the old Huskarl unit could be renamed to something from the Goth language (Huskarls were a Saxon thing) ---
**Author:** ![AbuzzJam4677680](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/abuzzjam4677680/32/55419_2.png) [@AbuzzJam4677680](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/AbuzzJam4677680)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2026, 4:04am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/will-saxons-get-the-huskarl/288307/2 "2026-07-31T04:04:26Z")
I wish Goths would get another UU in this case. ---
**Author:** ![Skadidesu](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/skadidesu/32/172243_2.png) [@Skadidesu](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Skadidesu)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2026, 5:54am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/will-saxons-get-the-huskarl/288307/3 "2026-07-31T05:54:37Z")
I haven’t seen the Huskarl on any screenshot so I assume not. I think the new Saxon UU is supposed to represent the real Huskarls. ---
**Author:** ![SamePorpoise303](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/sameporpoise303/32/29498_2.png) [@SamePorpoise303](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/SamePorpoise303)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2026, 8:53am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/will-saxons-get-the-huskarl/288307/4 "2026-07-31T08:53:15Z")
I’d like to but then people would complain about changing an OG civ when it would be enough to rename the Gothic Huskarl and name Huskarl the new Saxon unit. ---
**Author:** ![KHANATTILA](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/khanattila/32/30722_2.png) [@KHANATTILA](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/KHANATTILA)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2026, 9:17am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/will-saxons-get-the-huskarl/288307/5 "2026-07-31T09:17:44Z")
I’d like to see some changes too, but we’re talking about the same team that still hasn’t managed to bring Pastures to more civs. ---
**Author:** ![MatM1996](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/matm1996/32/29566_2.png) [@MatM1996](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/MatM1996)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2026, 12:47pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/will-saxons-get-the-huskarl/288307/6 "2026-07-31T12:47:05Z")
> [@smiki5five](#): > > I think the Huskarl could be either shared between Goths and Saxons as a Barrack unit (Goths can already train them there after researching their UT) or used as a name for a new unit belonging to the Saxons, while the old Huskarl unit could be renamed to something from the Goth language (Huskarls were a Saxon thing) No, but they will receive the Varangian Guard and the longships… ---
**Author:** ![CouguarLoup7693](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/couguarloup7693/32/29921_2.png) [@CouguarLoup7693](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/CouguarLoup7693)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2026, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/will-saxons-get-the-huskarl/288307/7 "2026-07-31T13:06:55Z")
I was at the point of making a topic about this. I think than the name Huskarl can be the Saxon UU name because this unit is clearly an huskarl. The actual Huskarl Goth UU can be renamed. What new name can we use for the Gothic UU ? ---
**Author:** ![Apocalypso4826](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/apocalypso4826/32/75648_2.png) [@Apocalypso4826](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Apocalypso4826)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2026, 12:21am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/will-saxons-get-the-huskarl/288307/8 "2026-08-01T00:21:54Z")
> [@CouguarLoup7693](#): > > What new name can we use for the Gothic UU ? Foederati could be a good name, referring to Gothic mercenaries in the Roman Empire. I prefer Huskarls remain as they are, though. ---
**Author:** ![CanineCrown7153](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/caninecrown7153/32/107446_2.png) [@CanineCrown7153](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/CanineCrown7153)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2026, 4:15am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/will-saxons-get-the-huskarl/288307/9 "2026-08-01T04:15:01Z")
> [@Apocalypso4826](#): > > Foederati Franks were foederati too. Foederati is a Roman type of alliance ---
**Author:** ![Ekarlath](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/ekarlath/32/146833_2.png) [@Ekarlath](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Ekarlath)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2026, 4:15am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/will-saxons-get-the-huskarl/288307/10 "2026-08-01T04:15:43Z")
Huskarl is a word that describ a style of soldier, not a unit, so no the saxon are not getting them, they got their Hearth Troop. A “houscarl” is basically a “house man”, so you can think of that as a Bodyguard. They are not a specific combat style dependant, they are more doctrina dependant, abit like Swiss Mercenaries, loyal to the death, but not mercenaries as they are bodyguards. They were more there to protect nobles rather than fighting wars, so they make no sense on the battlefield. The Goths Huskarl is kinda different, as it’s representing an older thing, where they took the name which became what we know later as the Houscarl of the Anglo-Saxons. It’s like giving the Slav the Boyars as a UU, it’s a name for a unit represnting their style. But maybe there will be a scenario editor unit representing a saxon Houscarl unit. * * * > [@CanineCrown7153](#): > > Franks were foederati too. Foederati is a Roman type of alliance Isn’t it simply the latin word for “Federated” (Vassal) ? ---
**Author:** ![smiki5five](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/smiki5five/32/217730_2.png) [@smiki5five](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/smiki5five)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2026, 5:18am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/will-saxons-get-the-huskarl/288307/11 "2026-08-01T05:18:05Z")
The Hearth dude should be called Huskarl and the Goth Huskarl should be renamed. Huskarls were Saxon, not Goth. ---
**Author:** ![PeakHornet46539](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/peakhornet46539/32/187877_2.png) [@PeakHornet46539](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/PeakHornet46539)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2026, 6:02am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/will-saxons-get-the-huskarl/288307/12 "2026-08-01T06:02:46Z")
But they need big axes like the Housecarls at Hastings ---
**Author:** ![TommoChocolate](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/tommochocolate/32/197278_2.png) [@TommoChocolate](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/TommoChocolate)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2026, 6:53am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/will-saxons-get-the-huskarl/288307/13 "2026-08-01T06:53:41Z")
> [@Ekarlath](#): > > They were more there to protect nobles rather than fighting wars, so they make no sense on the battlefield. What are you talking about? Housecarls fought, for example, at the battles of Stamford Bridge and Hastings, why do they make no sense on the battlefield? > [@CouguarLoup7693](#): > > What new name can we use for the Gothic UU ? _Gadrauhts_ – a Gothic term for soldier. Not very specific, but it is at least a Gothic word. ---
**Author:** ![KHANATTILA](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/khanattila/32/30722_2.png) [@KHANATTILA](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/KHANATTILA)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2026, 7:34am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/will-saxons-get-the-huskarl/288307/14 "2026-08-01T07:34:06Z")
> [@CouguarLoup7693](#): > > What new name can we use for the Gothic UU ? Bucellario? Not exactly great. If we borrow from the Visigoths in Spain, we could use Gardingus. > **[Bucellarii](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bucellarii)** > > Bucellarii (the Latin plural of Bucellarius; literally "biscuit–eater", Greek: Βουκελλάριοι) were formations of escort troops used in the Roman Empire in Late Antiquity.\[a\] They were employed by high-ranking military figures (such as Flavius Aetius and Belisarius) or civil office-holders. Their name is derived from the type of bread rations eaten by these troops, so-called buccellatum. The term bucellarii came into common use during the reign of Emperor Honorius (r. 395–423). According to Jon Cou... > **[Gardingues](https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gardingues)** > > Cet article est une ébauche concernant le Haut Moyen Âge et l’Espagne. Les gardingues, ou plus rarement gardinges (en latin : gardingi ; en espagnol : (los) gardingos), désignaient dans le royaume wisigoth d'Espagne un groupe de nobles palatins. Le terme gardingi (singulier : gardingus), qui apparaît au VIIe siècle dans les actes des conciles de Tolède, pourrait dériver du gotique gards, « maison », suivi du suffixe d'origine germanique -ing, et signifier « compagnon de la maisonnée, garde du cor... ---
**Author:** ![TommoChocolate](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/tommochocolate/32/197278_2.png) [@TommoChocolate](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/TommoChocolate)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2026, 10:39am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/will-saxons-get-the-huskarl/288307/15 "2026-08-01T10:39:23Z")
> [@smiki5five](#): > > The Hearth dude should be called Huskarl Potentially very misleading for returning players! But I’m not sold on _hearth troop_. It seems to be a (very rare) modern rendering of _hird_ or _hirdman_, but _hird_ and _hearth_ aren’t etymologically related as far as I can tell. I don’t see why they didn’t just call it _hirdman_, and some other options would be _gesith_ or _thegn_. (Possibly also _atheling_, but that may be too specific.) ---
**Author:** ![smiki5five](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/smiki5five/32/217730_2.png) [@smiki5five](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/smiki5five)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2026, 11:42am UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/will-saxons-get-the-huskarl/288307/16 "2026-08-01T11:42:38Z")
Oh yeah, I’m all for Hirdman! ---
**Author:** ![Ekarlath](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/ekarlath/32/146833_2.png) [@Ekarlath](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Ekarlath)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2026, 12:29pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/will-saxons-get-the-huskarl/288307/17 "2026-08-01T12:29:03Z")
> [@TommoChocolate](#): > > What are you talking about? Housecarls fought, for example, at the battles of Stamford Bridge and Hastings, why do they make no sense on the battlefield? I’m talking about the word, just make some research you’ll see. ---
**Author:** ![TommoChocolate](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/tommochocolate/32/197278_2.png) [@TommoChocolate](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/TommoChocolate)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2026, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/will-saxons-get-the-huskarl/288307/18 "2026-08-01T13:12:36Z")
Sorry, you’ll have to help me out here. How is doing some research into the word going to convince me that housecarls make no sense on the battlefield when I already know of some major battles that housecarls fought in? ---
**Author:** ![casusincorrabil](https://forums.ageofempires.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@casusincorrabil](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/casusincorrabil)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2026, 1:23pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/will-saxons-get-the-huskarl/288307/19 "2026-08-01T13:23:43Z")
General question to this thread: Are the saxons implemented representative for that part of land where huskarls were active? I thought we already had a civs and units representing that. And what civ is supposed to represent the other saxons? ---
**Author:** ![Mahazona](https://forums.ageofempires.com/user_avatar/forums.ageofempires.com/mahazona/32/213405_2.png) [@Mahazona](https://forums.ageofempires.com/u/Mahazona)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2026, 1:24pm UTC](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/will-saxons-get-the-huskarl/288307/20 "2026-08-01T13:24:25Z")
If the household guards duty is to protect his employer aka the lord,why wouldn’t they fight alongside him in a battlefield? > [@casusincorrabil](#): > > And what civ is supposed to represent the other saxons? I guess they are Teutons or Goths in-game. [Next page](https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/will-saxons-get-the-huskarl/288307.md?page=2)