People need to learn to separate between a formal leader of armies and warriors. I hope you understand that the people listed in this article were not actually warriors at all, it’s really laughable to any one who is acquainted with these women to read the word “warrior” in relation to them. These women were medieval queens and princesses, they were not trained to fight nor did they at any point pick up a sword to fight the muslims along with their husbands.
Being a ruler is not the same as being a warrior. Titles in the middle ages were inherited in the family and if there was no son the the title could sometimes fall to a daughter as in the famous case with Eleanor of Aquitaine, in other cases the Queen had to act as regent in her hubands stead or while the prince came of age. One of the duties of the ruler is to send the troops to battle, this is not the same as directing armies on the battlefield and certainly not as fighting with sword and armor on the frontline. I guarantee you, the women you listed did neither.
What this article actually tells me is that there were no female warriors among the crusaders so they had resort to using any women which could in any way be connected to a soldier to have anything to put on that list. Maybe you should pad the list out further by adding the prostitutes who accompanied armies as camp followers
Fighting women were known in India. Chandragupta Maurya had a corps of women troops for personal protection.
Could we at least agree to have more scenario editor women units?
Nun
Shield Maiden (if there is the Shark with a Cat on top (Sharkatzor), then a Shield Maiden can surely be added for sure)
Queen (with regional variations like the King has)
Women hero units (Sultana Razia from the Delhi Sultanate, Queen Eleanor of Aquitaine, Empress Wu Zetian, Gitarja (a Queen of the Majapahit Empire), Empress Theodora (maybe a re-skinned priest unit given how “influential” she was on the Byzantine Empire)
I think this list above we can live with. Maybe the Regicide game could generate a King OR Queen if the Queen regional skins can be added - maybe even as a Special Event for International Women’s Day
Basically it can be represented by Scythians in game. I think most of the early nomads (not include Huns and Gokturks) in central asia and east europe can also be regarded as Scythians in game. Keep the accuracy in some degree and try best to make it fun.
They might not be in the middle age, but they are in the Attila story in the game.
The time that the Huns said goodbye to the world was even before the Roman collapsed.
Well, we can also let Saka lady horsemen be an editor unit for making the in-game fake Scythians better rather than introducing a new civ.
i agree … huns dont fit in medieval period… they were in classical age. I play total war attila and 1212 Ad mod and i can clearly see the differences between these 2 eras
Yeah, Huns are literally at the tail end of Antiquity, but unlike Goths, never made it into the Midde Ages, or had any Medieval presence at all as a culture (we do not know almost anything about their culture in Antiquity either).
The debate should not be about what is realist and what is not.
AoE2 didn’t claim to be realistic in the first place.
Mamluk throwing swords is fun. That’s the point of a game. Being fun.
Forcing female characters for ideological reasons afterwards is not fun.
That’s the difference.
The game is not wholly realistic, true.
It does, however, stick to the Middle Ages setting, and there were no Female Troop types in the Middle Ages.
Sure, you can conjure up a few saints and queens, but no army units composed of mostly females (women just did not fight on the battlefield, as medieval living standards would not allow them to even keep up with a campaign, much less match men in battle, in a time when raw physical prowess was the biggest determinant of victory in most hand-to-hand fighting).
Shield Maidens are fantasy. I do like my MTG Angel-girls, but I am constantly aware that it is a fantasy and mythology trope (the Valkyrie) and not based on reality, or History, whatsoever.
Not ideological. Or maybe it is, I dont know.
My thought was that girls would tend to choose malians as favorite civ ust because of the gbeto. At least, thinking in my nieces, that always play with female characters, it is what I think it would happen, even if every civ has female villagers. So, the inclusion of a civ with nuns or a civ with another female unit would give more variety to choose to them.
Of course, I realize that war, specially in that time, was done by men. But putting queens instead of kings in some civs, or one other civ with a curious female unit would be nice, or at least woudnt be bad
