Please, i beg you devs, the wonder of the Franks must be changed to Notre Dame.
It is absolutely ridiculous that Notre Dame, one of the most 3D modeled buildings in the world, is not used.
Instead we have a much more complex modeling of the Saint Vitus Cathedral located in Prague. The
AOE 4 already have it (not very accured) and even some modders already have done the work, the devs just need to polish the modeling, scale it and animate the destruction. I think that this error also goes against the fundamental essence of Age of Empires, which is learn history by playing. When I was a kid I was very confused by the wonder of the Franks, an absolutely unnecessary confusion.
We have a huge opportunity during the reopening of Notre Dame at this year’s Olympic games in Paris!!!
You cound do an entire thing about it. like “the olympic AOE Games”!!!
What did replacing the Briton wonder add to the game? The current one doesn’t even look that much like the one the old devs claim it to be (Chartres Cathedral) and is more commonly accepted to be St. Vitus Cathedral (and is used to represent it in Jan Zizka).
If it is being done as a commemoration, then Notre Dame is undeniably the greatest tourist draw in France, even outclassing Versailles. It is also a masterpiece, a true architectural wonder and show piece of sacred art and architecture. There are some fine competitors, but it is a classy choice.
Tbh innthe case of Britons I guess having Aachen was seen as too much since its a somewhat recognizable building, the current Franks wonder even if based on something in Prague is just meant to represent the Gothic Architecture more broadly
If the problem is who built the building or who controlled it we could just give Franks Aachen
Although yeah it could be better than what it is rn
yes but is unacceptable, being so easy to do it rigth. and they spend many resources changin the english… and even spliting civs in many other. the heart of age of empires is the history. try to play warcraft or command and conquer… i don’t see those games arround any more.
I’m not even sure why everyone is so sure it’s St. Vitus Cathedral, which as far as I know had no connection to France. If that is the case, it’s as bad as Aachen Cathedral for the Britons, which ironically is a better choice for the Franks.
More likely, it’s just a composite of various Gothic cathedrals.
As a teenager, I assumed it was Notre Dame, since it looked roughly similar, and it seemed like the obvious choice. I was easily persuaded otherwise, and that it was Chartres cathedral, by AoK Heaven… which also turned out to be wrong!
It’s probably mostly because it looks similar, and most of the other AoK wonders are based on specific single buildings. However, I find it plausible because at one point during development (April 1999, about 8 months before release) it was the Teutons’ wonder:
Could be. Personally I think the “new” Britons’ wonder is a composite/generic building as well, although the prevailing opinion seems to be that it’s Chichester cathedral.
Age of Empires is a game with a historic setting not a simulation.
AoE is inherrently not realistic. There are many other games out there that try to be more realistic.
It’s kind of the Call of Duty or RTS.
Call of Duty WW2 is way less realistic then Rising Storm/Red Orchestra.
Different games are trying to be differently realistic.
It’s a completely valid opinion to want AoE2 to be a little more realistic and I share that opinion. I think AoE2 should be more realistic in many ways. Especially visually. I hate seeing Mayan Crossbows and Aztecs in Plate Armour.
And yes I like the visual changes you suggested.
I wasn’t criticising your post.
But AoE can only change so much without stopping to be AoE.
This game existed for 20+ years and there is no way they would now add realistic things like a logistic system for gunpowder or whatever other things that guy suggested.
That’s crazy! A lot of stuff got shuffled around. French with German buildings, English with French buildings, dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria!
In all seriousness, where did you find this? I’ve never seen it before.
It’s possible that it’s a composite, but considering it was added by the new devs, who never use composite buildings for Wonders, it seems likely that it is a specific building.
Maybe I’m misunderstanding, but Franks having Notre Dame as their wonder wouldn’t be any more “hyper realistic” than most of the wonders in game already.
Right now the current frankish wonder is an averaging of several ones, and no I don’t think it’s specifically the St Vitus cathedral il Prague (which indeed would feel weird), it notably lacks its very recogniseable dome-spire.
The main issue is how to make a cathedral look good on a square layout while they are much longer than wide.
