He is a scholar who studies East Asian weapon systems.
However, we found a significant historical evidence error in this DLC, so we opened a discussion window like this. The following are the proof errors in the problem.
火車 — an air defense weapon that replaces the mangonell catapult, firing multiple flammable rockets at the enemy. Training available in China, aftershocks, kuran and Joseon.
Problem: Both weapon systems did not appear around the Wei/Chok/O era (220-280).
And Jurchen and Khitan are both members of the Southwest Tungus family, and they are nomadic Mongolians with virtually the same genealogy. For reference, Mongolians also have the same genealogy because they belong to the Southwest Tungus family.
*Khitan was of Mongolian + Tungus descent, but it was almost of Mongolian descent.
For more information, please refer to the history of the Seonbi people. The Khitan is a nation that differentiated from the Seonbi people in the first place, and its name was changed from Malgal to none other than the Yeojin people, and the country that the Yeojin people founded in the 11th century was none other than the Golden Dynasty (1113/1115).
Jurchen is a descendant of the Sukshin-Malgal family.
Most of them lived as anti-nomads and, above all, had a lot to do with Korean history.
Since Koreans (Korean) were “ethnic” whose Yemaek line was a direct ancestor, the genomic deciphering result showed that Koreans have similar DNA to the Yeojin and Japanese.
So, this DLC has a lot of historical errors and even a disease that doesn’t exist in real history. There are cavalry, so a major correction will be inevitable.
The Black Panther didn’t exist in the Three Kingdoms period, because compared to the West, it was the Severus dynasty of the Roman Empire and the period of the military emperor.
The firebomb didn’t even exist. This is because Sun Samak (孫思邈), the inventor of the black chemical we use, was from the early Sui and Tang (541–682), so it didn’t even exist during the Three Kingdoms period (220–280). In other words, there was no gunpowder during the Three Kingdoms period.
The poster’s enthusiasm is appreciated, but many of the claims are overly simplified or inaccurate. The formation of historical peoples is a complex process that can’t be summarized with terms like “renaming” or “family line.” Open discussion is welcome, but greater care in citing and interpreting historical concepts is recommended to avoid spreading misinformation.
The Khitan were not a direct offshoot of the Xianbei. While both belonged to the broader nomadic groups of Northeast Asia and may have had some contact, the Khitan are believed to be descendants of Donghu-related tribes, with cultural influences from the Xianbei and Buyeo. The Xianbei were prominent in the 3rd–6th centuries, while the Khitan rose to prominence much later.
The Mohe were a collective name for various tribal groups during the Tang dynasty. The Jurchens emerged later as a distinct identity, largely derived from certain Mohe tribes, and established the Jin dynasty in 1115. It is misleading to say the Mohe simply “renamed” themselves as Jurchens; this ignores centuries of complex ethnogenesis.
Sushen were an ancient people mentioned in early Chinese records, dating back to the Shang and Zhou periods. While they lived in roughly the same region as the Mohe and Jurchens later did, there is no clear genetic or cultural continuity that justifies calling this a “family line.” The idea is speculative and oversimplifies complex historical transformations.
The claim that Koreans, Jurchens, and Japanese share similar DNA is an oversimplification. While East Asian populations do exhibit some shared genetic markers due to geographic proximity and ancient migrations, modern genomics emphasizes regional continuity and diversity rather than neat ancestral lines. The Jurchens, for instance, later became the Manchus, who underwent significant sinicization during the Qing dynasty.
On the contrary, thank you very much for your interest. As you know, the history of the West is less interested than that of East Asia. Therefore, not many people know about it. It is an honor for you to point it out like this.
The Manchu and the Jurchens, even though they were of the same race in the first place, often formed their own forces. In particular, the Qing Dynasty was the same Jurchens, but in genealogy, they were subjugated to the Yuan Dynasty (Mongolian Empire) as the Mongol Empire after the Golden Dynasty and divided into Geonju, Haese, and Yin. Later, Sungdeokje (Hong Taiji), a member of the Geonju Yeojin, changed his name to “Manju.” For reference, Yain Yeojin (Warka) was an Jurchens who often had conflicts with Joseon, and in the case of Yeojin, four early states were formed: Ula (烏拉), Hoifa (哈達), Hada (葉赫), and Yeohe (輝) in the mid-16th century.
In the case of the Khitan, it was a tribe that split between the East-Ohwan-Sunbi (Successive/Haese/Orahon) and the West-Yeo, which was later almost assimilated into Mongolia after the fall of Seoyo, and in the case of the Daur, who is believed to be their descendant, they were anti-farmers. For your information, it was also confirmed that the Mongols were divided in the West of Mongolia.
Unlike the West, Eastern dynasties were “external internal affairs.”
The Khitan and the Yeojin had their own languages and letters. The Yeojin was created during the Golden Dynasty, and the Khitan was created during the Yo Dynasty. However, it is out of line with the times that the game’s languages are modern Chinese and modern Mongolian. Of course, in the case of the Khitan language/Yeojin language, it becomes private, so it can’t be helped, but at least I think it’s a empirical error to borrow standard Chinese as a civilized language.
–(The photo posted shows the actual Khitan, the text of the aftershock, and the Geumgangjeon Hall of Sungboksa Temple, a representative building in the style of the real Golden Dynasty.)
Both the Khitan and the aftershocks had iron weapons, and the iron weapons of the Golden Dynasty were so powerful that they were able to topple Yo and Buksong and conquer Hwabuk in less than 20 years. On the contrary, I know that the iron weapons of the Khitan people also showed great power in the Yeoyo War (a war in which Yayul Mun 殊奴, the sixth emperor of Yo, invaded Goryeo in 993-1019).
At that time, Daegeum (Amban Alchun) was a country founded by the Yeojin, who lived from 1113/1115 to 1234 . The Zhou people included the Yeojin, Han, Khitan, Hae, Balhaein, etc., and the characters were Yeojin (a character produced under the influence of the Khitan character)/ Chinese characters, and the language was also used by using Yeojin and medieval Chinese.
A painting by Katapraktoi of the Mosktan Gur (Daeyo), which proved its time. Daeyo was an empire founded by the Quran people from 907/916 to 1125 The Khitan people, Balhae people, Han people, Hae people, and Yeojin people were distributed.
A YouTuber with the language “ILoveLanguages!” has data from the Khitanese language and Jurchen language that has disappeared from this world. We recommend you listen to it.
