Sheeps will produce 200 Food instead of 250. Anatolian Hills doesn’t mentioned in patch notes. It should give 10 sheep instead of 8 regarding to changes.
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Devs dont like Ottomans. Every other civ gets love from them but Ottomans dont. I repeat again Ottomans are the most boring civ in the game because of military schools.
Not at all. Ottomans were a+ or S tier just before last patch and dominating the 1v1 ranked but yeah these days Ottos are not doing that great and probably gonna be fixed don’t you worry.
‘‘Devs don’t like Ottomans’’ is not something i can agree with. You are exaggerating the situation. Calm down mate we all love this game and devs are doing amazing job keeping the game patched.
NOTE I: Otto late game composition ( Jans + Bombards + Sipakhi ) is maybe the most powerful and deadly composition.
NOTE II : Ottos castle age with Jannisary company vizier point alongside with mangos gives extreme edge of timing push capacity. Really difficult to hold it.
NOTE III : Ottos feudal age is garbage at all xD (Sikpahi is so expensive for Ottomans weak eco )
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I dont exaggrating anything. Devs dont give any love to the Ottomans. Ottomans are boring to play. Some vizier points sucks. Military schools sucks. Ottomans are more artilery type than Rus but Rus have artilery techologies. Every other civ can recruit normal cannons. Ottomans can produce Great Bombard but somehow they dont have knowlodge to build normal cannons.This is so absurd. Ottomans have heavy cav named Kapı Kulu Sipahis. Where are horse archer Sipahis and Kapı Kulu Sipahis?. Rus will get some love although they dont need.
This is a game not a real historical reality showcase to begin with.
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i don’t think Ottomans are boring, on the contrary they extremely fun to play. ( I am Otto main plat2 - diamond ı ) But their feudal age stil needs some love. Maybe Spiakhis creation time could be lowered or Basic Ottoman archers could have an upgrade to make them little better than generic archers. Idk.
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Vizier points are cool especially Jannissary company has given me many games for timing push.
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Ottomans can produce siege for free this is maybe the best siege tech in game. Also Great Bombards when protected by Jans and Sipakhi they are probably the best cannon in the game.
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Ottomans had very good heavy cavalry indeed but their heavy cavalry were never near Frankish or Hungarian cavalry according to historical sources. Ottomans and other Turkic nations were always famous for their light cavalry which is perfectly depicted by the game already.
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Horse archers were not widely used by Ottomans ,you are confused with Old-Turkic customs. Horse archers were common and elite soldiers for Ottomans only for a very small period of time when they established their country around 12th-13th century. Russian empire however had more Turkic warriors than Ottomans given the fact that Tatars Kipchaks Khazakhs Kirghiz people were elite soldiers of Russian empire. Ottoman army composition and cultural background rapidly moved from Old-Turkic customs to more infantry and gunpowder oriented era. Their army were mostly composed of european mostly Slavic and ##### ##### soldiers which were called dewshirme ( Jannisaries , Cannoneers , Heavy cavalrymen ) Even Ottoman army generals which were called Pashas were mostly of European origin. So Cavalry Archery became more and more niche in Ottoman army. Again im saying Turkish warriors who are accustomed for using Cavalry Archery like Tatars , Kipchaks etc. were mostly part of Mongolian , Safevid and Russian army rather than Ottomans. Maybe this is the reason why Otto’s dont have horse archer in the game.
NOTE :Perhaps arguably the Ottomans were historically strongest in the time period of the game , but it would be silly to make one civ way stronger than others for a competitive game.
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Yep Ottoman is trash tier atm, very low winrate on team games as well
What are you talking about? Team games and FFA is where Military Schools shine and pay off. They are not viable to early aggression in 1v1 games tho.
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Ottoman has the lowest winrate on Conq Rank on Team Games, guess why?
its over nerfed
if you think your team opponent will just afk and let you boom your either low rank or never bother to climb on team games,
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Otto was 49.8% winrate last patch, it’s not updated yet.
And they just received a military school buff…
I don’t understand how they are trash tier.
Ayyubid, HRE, English, Rus and Byz are their worst matchups.
5 of these 5 received nerfs this patch.
I predict Otto winrate will go above 50% this patch with almost no bad matchups.
they got buffed slightly, only 0.25, its still a 50% nerf compared to 100% compared to the biggest nerf to them
but they still gonna be in the trash bottom, anatolian hills is bugged and doesnt count the sheeps amount, so its a nerf for them
they are trash tier cuz it takes forever to get to imperial and team games are all about Feudal aggression, stats shows otherwise that they dont do well
and English Ayuubid Nerf doesnt really change much, same with byzantine, 10 extra wood is big nerf u think lol
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I wanna make sure to verbalize, that I don’t disagree with you about the Anatolian Hills being a victim of the recent patch, the Vizier point definitely has to be adjusted to cover the same amount of food as before.
I do disagree with your statement about the strength of the Ottomen on the other hand.
They were at arround 50% last patch and received a ~5% training time buff for military schools now.
They only had 5 matchups (out of 15) with less than 50% winratio last patch (1v1 conq).
Out of these 5, 4 received nerfs now and Ottomen received a buff now in this patch.
They are in an avg, if not better than average spot now.
In what Elo range (1v1) are you playing if I may ask?