AOE2 Top Priorities: Three things that MUST be FIXED

[SavvyEmpire]

@dededoritos

I still don’t get this very well. The report topic you linked me earlier was about a problem that doesn’t regard the game, exactly. It’s a problem with Microsoft Store. Outside this issue you mentioned, are there others regarding finding games, and are those many/happening often?

The issue is that games can’t be found in the lobby. Examples:

1. Issue with multiplayer
2. I can´t see any party in the lobby (multiplayer) AOE II - #2 by SavvyEmpire
3. Not all games visibile in the spectator tab - #3 by SavvyEmpire

@dededoritos

Yeah, still happens, specially with custom scenarios. But on other areas the game generally runs fine for most of players. It’s performing good (even better if you compare how it was some months ago).

For me, sometimes it crashes soon after I open the game. Sometimes it crashes when starting a multiplayer game. Sometimes it crashes while trying to go into the options. Sometimes it crashes during a game. By crashes, the game just exits out completely, no error messages of any kind. I’ve seen other reports like this in the forums.

I have a good internet connection and a good PC.

@dededoritos

And why evoke such a unreasonable level to the concern, come on.

Your and my definition of reasonable are different. I added my feedback in the appropriate forum so that they can see it. The issues from #1 and #2 are frustrating and don’t provide an excellent gaming experience, therefore the feedback. It is similar to what happened previously, but if you don’t see that, that’s okay.

@dededoritos

One of the goals selling the game obviously was make money, that’s with every game with a price (and even with some that aren’t priced). But to claim that it was made solely for raising funds is not a matter of opinion, if you have no proof to support that there’s no sense claiming such things.

I’m not going argue with such a self-contradictory and/or pedantic statement.

@dededoritos

So you should know that they explicity confirmed to be supportive to the multiplayer. I don’t understand why you asked about that.

No, they didn’t explicitly confirm that in the article. They mentioned fixing bugs and adding a new autoscouting and other similar stuff, but there’s still the elephant in the room. For example, read 10 Reasons AoE2:DE is so bad to get the big picture.

@dededoritos

My main point was that there are plenty of examples of one-off purchases, under 60$, with no extra fee for playing multiplayer in the market that thrived.

No, it wasn’t. You were attempting to refute:

@SavvyEmpire

A one-time fee of $20 however is unsustainable for a game that requires long-term maintenance, like AOE2 does.

(which you quoted)

And replied with:

@dededoritos

Not only that but we have plenty of examples on the online gaming universe that disproofs your claim. Only from the top of my mind I can think of: Minecraft, CS:GO, (arguiably) PUBG, R6, Street Fighter V.

However, as already shown above, your examples don’t disprove the claim.

@dededoritos

my idea was based on the definition given by the dev team on the linked article

They didn’t really give a definition beyond “We’re developing based on your feedback”.

@dededoritos

What you quoted there was the development of my point about how the influx of money won’t impact on the game support, because the investment to that is planned previously by the publisher. Even if the game sold 5x more than it did the support would remain somewhat the same as it is now, because that’s the investment the publisher did on the game. Any extra money that comes in is profit, not more investment.

1. That wasn’t in the article.
2. You previously said:

@dededoritos

As already pointed out this game is not free. And on top of that, AOE2DE is under GAAS model . What that mean is that the investment for the game’s life support is previously planned. Of course that doesn’t mean that they won’t be reactive with the development, but the general leading is pretty much mapped already. The same goes for the development budget. This game already had its money investement, any income they get further on is profit, and only that. They won’t turn it into more investment (unless for some exceptional reason), because that’s not how business work on post-launched games.

As already mentioned, GaaS does NOT mean that and it usually means the opposite. When you see GaaS, don’t conclude what you conclude, because it’s not correct. And, no, the developers weren’t saying what you concluded.

I appreciate the discussion, but it’s at the point of I should probably bow out of the conversation. Have a nice night!