From what I understand, the premium edition contains Freyr on norse pantheon.
Isn’t this straight up a pay to win aspect of the game over players that buy standard edition?
I was going to buy the premium edition mostly for the 2 free expansions, but it seems p2w’ish to me and I don’t feel confortable enough to support this sale tactic in an RTS.
Will Freyr be in any shape or form impactful in a match against players that don’t have it?
If the answer to the above question is “yes”, then it’s p2w on my book and Freyr should be added to the standard edition aswell and probably get rid of anyone that came up with this decision, because that person doesn’t understand gamers at all.
Again, I have no idea what Freyr will do. I could be completely wrong and I hope I’m wrong and Freyr is just a reskin of another minor god or something with the exact same abilities and upgrades
Although it hasn’t been confirmed officially, it will most likely be a major god, meaning a premium norse player won’t have any in-game advantage compared to a non premium.
Freyr is most likely going to be a major god. Which means his advantages will always be contained to matches where you fight him just like any other major god choice. Unless he is simply unbalanced he won’t be any more pay to win than the addition of the Atlantean or Chinese pantheons. But any new content both paid or not has a chance of being unbalanced. More likely than anything he’ll have inflated win rate for a few weeks while people learn to play against him. If he is overly strong it’s very likely he will be nerfed
I’m sure the AoE2 and other players can give you a better answer, but I see that sometimes in games hosts in AoMEE will ban players from picking Chinese or have everyone go random/a specific pantheon. I don’t think it’s correct to say it’s pay to win, unless someone is playing a known unbalanced civ.
I hope that’s the case and I also hope it won’t be exclusive for premium, meaning anyone can buy it later or is included for free in later expansions. I trust the balance team to do their job correctly.
But If it’s a minor god, than it’s potentially p2w. Having more options during a match is a whole other thing than simply fighting a different god and would open the possibility of releasing dozens of other minor gods for money.
I mean, if 2 players of equal skill fight each other with the same God, the one with more options will probably win more matches
I don’t think we should worry about this. if you go look, you’ll see the pack is named “new gods pack: Freyr”. The plural form indicates that there’s going to be more than one god added. Freyr will most likely be a major god, with maybe 2 or 3 unique minor gods.
You would just have to learn the new techs and bonuses, which won’t be a problem because there is going to be a ton of videos detailing everything about this new god.
I’m sure you’ll be able to buy the pack separately after a few weeks or months.
we don’t know anything about it really (or i missed something) and they don’t react to comments regarding this questions BUT even i REALLY love the idea of potential new major and minor gods, revealing a pack with just for one faction/civ is strange in my opinion.
they really should have made a pack with one new major and one new minor god for each civ.
and making the pack separate like with like freyrs minor gods only for him and not for the others, would feel hella odd too…
Why? Loki has unique access to Hel and Zeus has unique access to Hera. So it would be totally fine for Freyr to have exclusive minor gods. Moreover, we can’t exclude the possibility of even more major gods being added, even to the Norse. In the eventuality of a fifth norse god, I think it’s safe to assume both he and Freyr will share some of these new minor gods.
The Chinese that you can only get by buying the Chinese DLC will have a complete unique set of minor gods that you can only access by paying more money.
What’s the difference to a new Major god for an existing civilisation getting new Minor Gods?
As it is a Gods pack, I imagine that Freyr will be a Major god and at least 2 minor gods along with him to give his tech tree a difference.
As for the point of it being P2W.
Do you think Aoe2 dlcs are P2W too? After all, they bring new civilizations to the game.
If the gods pack is something like that. It’s the same thing we already know
yeah and that always bothered me too. that some cool minor gods with cool units are only accessable by only one god. never was a fan of that design, thats why i always hoped and also put effort here to emphasize the opportunity to get 3 minor gods for each major god.
i also hope the new minor gods will get mixed with the minor gods of the other major gods.
chinese dlc is a complete new civ. this is - for me - a total different topic.
also i still want to know how they want to make this work. if you download that major/minor god dlc will the minor gods get mixed with the existing old ones? i mean it should be the case.
then we have a scenario where we have two players. both pic e.g. thor. but one has the dlc and the other one not. so one has e.g. skadi and bragi for the heroic age and the other one at least one different minor god. would this be an advantage or disadvantage? if you make three minor gods per age it would solve this issue cause we would have skadi, bragi and one new major god. maybe you understand what i mean. maybe i think too much in that regard idk.
Just think about it. Every culture has 3 minor gods per age. If we follow your idea, every major god would get access to the exact same age-up options so basically the only thing unique about them would be their unique tech and bonuses. That would be boring.
New civs are not p2w, we all agreed on that. They usually do a great job at balancing. They could be temporarly op, but in the end we trust they’ll fix it.
Minor gods are a problem.
Imagine 2 players picking Odin 1v1.
They’re both of equal skills, one has freyr minor god (assuming it’s a minor god), the other doesnt
If Freyr as a minor god is the better option or a counter to odin generic strategy or whatever, then it’s p2w
It’s like adding DLC that adds thumb ring for britons in aoe2 or bloodlines to franks. A specific upgrade locked behind a paywall is P2W, doesn’t matter how small or insignificant it is. This also impacts the playerbase as a whole. Some people won’t play it because it’s p2w, others will quit, etc
Don’t worry about it. There’s 99.9% chances that Freyr will be a major god. The remaining 0.01% is only because we haven’t had the confirmation yet (though it’s obvious). The devs wouldn’t name a gods pack after him if he wasn’t the major god of the bunch, don’t you think?