Assuming the next DLC is Caucuses & Western Asia, there is a gap in our guesses

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And well, influenced by Persian culture and language, it doesn’t differ from playing with the Persians we already have…

A Persianate society is a society that is based on or strongly influenced by the Persian language, culture, literature, art and/or identity.

The term designates ethnic Persians but also societies that may not have been predominantly ethnically Persian but whose linguistic, material or artistic cultural activities were influenced by or based on Persianate culture. Examples of pre-19th-century Persianate societies were the Seljuq (Turks),[4][5][6] Timurid (Tatars),[7][8] Mughal (Hindustanis),[9][10] and Ottoman (Turks again) dynasties.

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Afgans are easy to make with current assets much like romans.
Buildings Central asian
Language persian
Wonder minaret of jam in the editor
UU skin female cavalry archer hero

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I’m sorry to break it to you, but this game isn’t CK3 and language and culture have no influence on gameplay. Military traditions are far more important, and in that regard the Afghans are poorly represented by the Persian tech tree.

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And the Turks, Mongols, Tatars and the Hindustanis?..

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What about them? Shouldn’t the fact that they are in game prove that Persianate societies can be represented in game as civs separate from the Persians, which is the opposite of your original point?

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That we already have enough civs to represent the Ghorids…I don’t see how they could differentiate them from the Western/Central Asian civs we already have…

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Sure we can heck they can be the first civi with elephants and stepp lancers.

Credits to dynasticplanet/usac for the original idea.

Afgans can have cool uus like a female cavalry unit guns on a camel zaubark and elephant cannons.

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Oh! Well, to me the fact that this civ takes elements from so many other different ones is precisely why of the reasons why it should be its own thing. Before TLK, you could have said that the Tatars were represented by Mongols, Turks and Persians, but neither of them fully encapsulate them. And in terms of gameplay, there’s plenty of things to do (@Mahazona just gave one exemple). This rebutal feels just like the usual “We don’t need any more Central Asian civ ever because it would be yet another one with cavalry”, which I always find a little bit hypocritical when you look at how much variety you can have among some European civs with a very similar roster at first glance.

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Strange, but it could be… although I don’t remember that the Ghorids used elephants, but they did use steppe lancers…

Very late, the Afghans used the Zamburak in the 18th century…might fit better in AoE 3 (Durrani Empire)…

Zamburak (Persian: زنبورک), literally meaning wasp, was a specialized form of self-propelled artillery from the early modern period, featuring small swivel guns mounted on and fired from camels. Its operator was known as a zamburakchi. It was used by the gunpowder empires, especially the Iranian empires of the Safavid dynasty, Timurid Empire and Afsharid dynasty, due to the ruggedness of the Iranian Plateau, which made typical transportation of heavy cannons difficult.

The zamburak became a popular mode of warfare in the 18th century in Indian subcontinent. The Pashtuns used it in the Battle of Gulnabad, routing a numerically superior imperial Safavid army. It was also used successfully in Nader’s Campaigns, when the shah and military genius Nader Shah utilized a zamburak corps in conjunction with a regular corps of conventional cannon to devastating effect in numerous battles such as at the Battle of Damghan (1729), the Battle of Yeghevārd, and the Battle of Karnal. A large number of zamburaks were also successfully employed by Ahmed Shah Durrani during his raid in north Indian plain in defeating the Maratha forces near Panipat.

Good point…okay, stick them in then…although I say they would fit better in AoE 3…

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Maybe off the time frame but still a cool looking uu.More cool looking illustrations of stuff mounted on camels here.

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Yeah, but still… I don’t think the devs will put the zamburak in AoE 2, unless they do it as the Conquistador…

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It wouldn’t be the first time. The gbeto corps was in use from the 17th to 19th century (so entirely outside of the game timeframe) and they used rifles rather than throwing knifes or whatever they’re supposed to be wielding in game.

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True, it’s like they ran out of ideas for new UUs and said “that’s it, we’ll put them in and that’s it, it’s just a game”…

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Yeah. Honestly Hindustanis having SL would make totally sense. I guess they didn’t get due to more likely legacy reason than balance reason.

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Persianate =/= Persia.

Anyhow if Persia as an umbrella civ were to be broken up it would include the Ghorids certaintly.

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Persians have more civilizations. Sogdians, Daylamites, Alans and Ghorids are all Iranian people.

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They could do the Rus. They are in a few campaigns but have no civ for them.
Edit: but I guess maybe they would be considered a more eastern European civ, so I don’t know.

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ingame Slavs are the Rus.

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What if they give them Steppe Lancers to represent the Ghorids?..

Yes, everything can be…

Yes, but what if they later add the Serbs, Croats and Vlacs?..they would have to rename the Slavs to simply Russians…

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Bohemians Poles bulgarians are slavs alongside slavs who should be rus.