Dude, you have started two or three discussions with the exact same point already.
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Yeah bro, maybe you should play them if they are SO OP so you will win every game … or not
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I could easily make a thread with the title “Norse/Greek/Egyptians are OP please nerf” and then just list their civ bonuses.
That’s how bonuses work. Every civ has their strengths and weaknesses.
If you think one civ is OP then back that up showing win rates and not just a random list of things they are good at.
This argument is utterly stupid.
Atlantean villagers cost twice as much as the other villagers, twice as much population, the build limit is half as big and need 1.66x as long to train.
But they only collect resources 1.5x as fast as a Greek villager. Yes they don’t need drop of buildings but other villagers don’t spend that much time dropping of resources and the drop of buildings are not that expensive (free for Egyptians even).
They are by far the weakest, just cheaper to recast.
Norse can just build them with their army. Much more convenient.
Nope. They are better then the Egyptians (that got buffed in the last update btw.) but Greeks can easily get the fastest generation.
Norse don’t even have to do anything for it.
Also Atlantian favour production can easily be reduced by picking of the Oracles.
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The Atlanteans have no disadvantages. The Atlanteans were created by selecting most of the advantages of the other pantheons and improving them even more. The only thing that was missing for the Atlanteans was that their military units could also create buildings and that heroes were available in the urban center like the Greeks.
I don’t trust lists that say this: “it is not endorsed by or affiliated with Microsoft.” = they can manipulate the list however they want.
Atlanteans can practically train 2 villagers at the same time, they are much more efficient than other villagers from other pantheons, they are strong as a classical age military unit, a group of Atlantean villagers can defeat a group of cavalry easily. It is absurd that the Atlantean villagers despite being very superior and not needing a resource deposit can also turn into heroes to improve even more.
All Atlantean powers are powerful and broken, they were designed to spam mythic units (Hesperides) or to defeat entire armies multiple times (Chaos + Shockwave), (Implode). The Atlantean powers can’t be countered. Does it seem fair to you that the Vortex power is used every 2 minutes? That the Atlanteans can move their entire army every 2 minutes to any part of the map is completely broken.
No, it is more efficient to move your entire army anywhere on the map every 2 minutes with the Vortex power.
There are a bunch of disadvantages the have, for example no long range siege unit unlike every other civ.
Yes but they take longer to train and cost more.
1 Atlantean villager cost as much as 2 other villagers but is only 1.5x as good.
The Greeks have a much stronger economy.
Hero villagers only have a very slightly higher resource collection rate.
I don’t agree. I always preferred almost all powers from other civs.
Yes but then you don’t have Implosion. Also the other Mythic Age Gods Powers from other civs are even more powerful in my opinion.
Inferno easily beats Implosion in my opinion.
As I said if Atlanteans were broken then people would agree with you here, but they don’t. It would be really really strange if you were the only one noticing all those issues, right?
The game is not balanced according to your skills but according to the skills of all the players combined.
The Atlanteans are the pantheon that can generate the most favor per minute in the game. Can you stop lying to people? The Atlanteans are completely broken.
Atlanteans can gain up to 72 favor per minute or 360 favor every 5 minutes.
generating that much favor isn’t free, You need space for oracles, You need resources for oracles, You need resources to heroize your oracles.
Now I’m not saying your completely wrong. Maybe if an Atlantean players is left alone and is allowed to get every upgrade, Every oracle, Every bit of resource then just maybe it will have a bit of advantage. But unfortunately the game wasn’t designed with this in mind. And to be honest… the game needs to go on for a very long time for these upgrades to kick in… .
No.
Greeks can produce the most by simply sending more villagers to pray.
Norse can produce more in late game by just constantly fighting.
Egyptians clearly have the lowest rate but that got slightly buffed in the last update.
You can simply multiply the number of Oracles by the max amount of favour one Hero Oracle can generate to get their max rate.
The absolute max (Gaia+Leto+Theia) is 7.06*10 = 70.6/Minute (without a Wonder of course) Not sure how you got 72. Unless you went with Rheia and conquered a lot of TCs.
But that’s the theoretical maximum if you pic the right gods, upgrade all your Oracles to heroes and then spread them out perfectly where no one tries to kill them.
Greeks could just throw 50 villagers on favor and then research Athenas technology that gives them +20% on top of Zeus +20%.
You could say it’s unrealistic because you need to collect other resources?
No you can just use Vault of Plenty. It just got buffed to 4 of each resource per second and you can buy more of them for favor, easy.
I know Atlantean rate can be high but so can the other civs (other then Egyptians) in the right situations.
Atlateans gain a maximum of 72 favor per minute according to the game in a normal game. What you say does not make sense, Norse gain 0.01 favor every second with heroes and need 100 heroes to gain 1 favor. fight to gain favor? how many fights does a norse normally do in a game? 2 or 3 fights is not enough to gain favor compared to the other pantheons. regarding the egyptians they gain maximum 68 favor per minute using the son of osiris to bless the monuments.
Atlateans: 72 favor per minute
Norse: 0.6 favor per minute
Egiyptians: 68 favor per minute
The primary way norse gain favor is by fighting. Infact most of my matches norse players had the most favor generated out of all players.
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Hmm… First question, what kind of problem do you have to deal with Atlanteans?
How did you lose to Atlanteans?
The game is too unbalanced because the Atlanteans are very broken, these kinds of imbalances ruin the game experience.
In every game where you face an Atlantean the same thing happens:
The Atlanteans advance to the next age first. The Atlanteans always have the lead in resource gathering. The Atlanteans always spam heroes, whether archers or cavalry. You create an army to try to face an Atlantean in the heroic age and the Atlantean completely destroys your army using the Chaos + Shockwave power. You create an army again but the Atlantean advanced to the mythic age and destroys your entire army with the implode or uses the vortex power to move the Atlantean army anywhere on the map every 2 minutes. If you fail to defeat an Atlantean before the Atlantean advances to the mythic age, it is a guaranteed defeat.
that site “it is not endorsed by or affiliated with Microsoft.” = they can manipulate the list however they want
Anyone can pay a programmer to create a fake statistics website to obtain a personal benefit, such as “donations, sabotage, etc.” I do not believe in that kind of website.
Stats from that site and IamMagic one of the top players doesn’t think Atlanteans are broken OP based on his Tier list. Its getting annoying with you spamming the same stuff about Atlanteans.
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Dude please understand that site “it is not endorsed by or affiliated with Microsoft.” = they can manipulate the list however they want
More spamming from you got it. Also ignoring that IamMagic tier list too I see.