Ayyubids - (3rd Wing Imperial Age) Economic Wing: Growth + Stacking Old & New Gather Rate Buff - The new +10% (multiplicative) gather rate buff is stacking with the old +25%/+10%/+10% (additive) gather rate bonus

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For Ayyubids, the “Economic Wing: Growth” in Imperial Age (3rd or 4th Wing) gives a new +10% gather rate buff to all Villagers that you can see in the unit card.

However, this is stacking with the old gather rate bonus that existed before when you get Growth as your 3rd Wing to reach Imperial Age.

I will lay out the situation before and now.

Season 8 (and before) Gather Rate Bonus:

  • [3rd Wing] Economic Wing: Growth
    • Food: +25% (additive) gather rate
    • Wood: +10% (additive) gather rate
    • Gold/Stone: +10% (additive) gather rate
  • [4th Wing] Economic Wing: Growth
    • Food: 0% bonus
    • Wood: 0% bonus
    • Gold/Stone: 0% bonus

Even though +25% gather rate is high, it only gave +10% food income because of diminishing returns with farming.

Season 9 (currently) Gather Rate Bonus:

  • [3rd Wing] Economic Wing: Growth
    • Food: +25% (additive) AND +10% (multiplicative) gather rate buff
    • Wood: +10% (additive) AND +10% (multiplicative) gather rate buff
    • Gold/Stone: +10% (additive) AND +10% (multiplicative) gather rate buff
  • [4th Wing] Economic Wing: Growth
    • Food: +10% (multiplicative) gather rate buff
    • Wood: +10% (multiplicative) gather rate buff
    • Gold/Stone: +10% (multiplicative) gather rate buff

Season 8 Max Gather Rate:

  • [3rd Wing] Economic Wing: Growth
    • Food: 100 + 10 + 15 + 15 + 15 + 25 = 180% gather rate
    • Wood: 100 + 10 + 15 + 15 + 15 + 10 = 165% gather rate
    • Gold/Stone: 100 + 10 + 15 + 15 + 10 = 150% gather rate

Season 9 Max Gather Rate (without stacking the bugged gather rates):

  • [4th Wing] Economic Wing: Growth
    • Food: (100 + 10 + 10 + 10 + 10)% * (100 + 10)% = 154% gather rate
    • Wood: (100 + 10 + 15 + 15 + 15)% * (100 + 10)% = 170.5% gather rate
    • Gold/Stone: (100 + 10 + 15 + 15)% * (100 + 10)% = 154% gather rate

Season 9 Max Gather Rate (stacking the bugged gather rates):

  • [3rd Wing] Economic Wing: Growth
    • Food: (100 + 10 + 10 + 10 + 10 + 25)% * (100 + 10)% = 181.5% gather rate
    • Wood: (100 + 10 + 15 + 15 + 15 + 10)% * (100 + 10)% = 181.5% gather rate
    • Gold/Stone: (100 + 10 + 15 + 15 + 10)% * (100 + 10)% = 165% gather rate

I might actually prefer the old +25% food bonus, because farming quickly has diminishing returns, so the old bonus was actually only a modest +10% food income.

Also, Ayyubids always seemed a bit weak economically late game. Therefore, if they choose this economic focused Wing, it should actually be worthwhile.

The exact wording of the Growth Wing says “Villagers work +10% faster”. I took that to mean they were aiming for +10% income, rather than +10% raw gather rates. So the +25% food gather rate feels justified in that way. Along with the fact that Feudal and Castle Age Growth Wing have a focus on food as well.

Build: 12.0.1974.0

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