Ballista Elephants' accuracy is unbelievably shit

Seriously, what’s the deal? Even villagers and pikes can dodge their shots. Either give them ballistics or thumb ring or just increase their accuracy and reduce their output damage.

“But they dominate in choke points post imp. on team game Black Forest!” - I don’t care, that’s such a niche game setting which I never play. I get that certain units and civs need to excel on different maps, but no single unit should be this useless on 1v1 open maps. Expecially a super expensive slow unit.

High attack is useless if their projectiles are so easy to dodge.

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Yeah, boats are all stupid and useless. They can’t do anything on Arabia, even when you get ponds their effectiveness is basically nonexistent. We should make docks placeable on land and make it so ships can cross onto land terrain.

False equivalence, your example is completely irrelevant. I’m talking about a land unit being useless on a land map.

You’re talking about a unit that is good in one situation being bad in another one. You choose not to treat them the same, I do.

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In what scenarios are you using them? If it’s them being massed in imp, this inaccuracy shouldn’t be relevant. If you go FC ballista elephants, you don’t even care if they land their shots. 2 or 3 of them will just idle everything.

On a separate note, they do have a very bad projectile. Shooting from a higher height + short range = very easy to dodge even in straight line.

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Well that’s on you, have you ever faced a mass of these guys?? then try to understand why they have such bad accuracy, and now imagine these eles having Ballistics and you get a completely busted unit.

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Ballistics doesnt actually fix accuracy. It just makes the missile smarter. Can you not still micro dance againdt it? Im not recommending adding it but it doesnt make them never never never miss

Knights can still dodge xbow with ballistics

I think Scorpions and Ballista Elephants should both benefit from Ballistics.
That should not be limited to Romans.
Romans already have 2 other strong bonuses for them.

Ballista Elephants are already hard countered by Mangonels/Onagers so they are certainly not invincible on closed maps.

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I wouldn’t expect an elephant to remain steady when shooting a ballista mounted on its back. These animals lose their cool surprisingly fast.

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